Date:   5/28/2009 8:52:53 AM ( 15 y ago)
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hello

I am pretty certain this is Alessandro/Jensen etc

either way perhaps this will help you.

there is little info given by Dr Schulze on his working on people with kidney failure--it is not mentioned in his works, videos, manual--but we do know he said it works for ALL diseases and we do know from his book "25 ways to have the cleanest kidneys" that people with no functioning kidneys, on dialysis and with kidney failure have recovered both in his clinic and from using his tapes to do their own incurables program.


here is the link..please read page 42 it will not link to page 42 but does to 28 when you get there go ahead to page 42..and dialysis page.

http://issuu.com/gordonmorton/docs/dr._schulze_25_ways_cleanest_kidneys/28?mo...




this is all he has written on it to my knowledge but he has written enough to know that the human body can regenerate ANY sick or dying organ.

He has also written on people who did not get well which were those who did not believe or did not do the program as it is meant to be done by leaving out nothing and increasing the intensity, by also doing things that are specific to one's disease which are the things I have written about in the 30 steps.

they are found here but in order to work one must do them and do then together and for more than a few weeks.

//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1224263#i


Also wolff on here talked of his success on the program (unless that was you with another alias) . I did not go on it for kidneys but did have success when I went on it.

I have, if this is who I think it is, donated over 200 hours to your dad's case since before you posted on here under a different name about his 5th stage (page 2) . I think we know the problem is he is not really doing what people are recommending as they recommend it.

It is not easy to heal something so serious and I know of no other healer who did it but Dr Schulze and his program remembering that in the clinic he added the things specific to the kidneys which is what I have done in the 30 steps (probably much more comprehensively than schulze had done in the clinic) others such as the poster above me have also mentioned things to add to one's program.

The thing that is hard is when it is YOUR spouse or YOUR parent or child or loved one and also when it is you who believes and the sick one not so much. You can be the most informed researcher on the planet but if your dad is stubborn or won't listen or doesn't believe or doesn't want to do what anyone recommends including doctors and schulze or wants 100% proof, or doesn't care if he dies, etc..then you have little chance of helping him. I am not saying stop looking but keep in mind whatever you find, he may not do and all this researching for nothing is taking away time you could spend with him if he is in his last days.

But I guess I am like you..I never stopped trying till a half hour before my mom died. First she declined and then when unconscious, my siblings freaked out and said I was trying to kill her when my sister had just heard the death rattle and said she is dying..I am, supposedly killing her when the nurses told me the drugs they gave her will see her dead within the day.

Dr schulze would not even answer your question as it was you asking it and not your dad asking it. I also should not have worked with a go between but when you were not entirely honest with me about things as you well know.

I once tried to ask schulze himself when he was on here about it for my mother but he left the forum for good, just before he got to my question but the day before he refused to answer someone's question on here saying the sick person needs to ask it and not the relative.

Although this seems mean, Schulze knew from experience that unless it is the person themselves desperate enough to try anything that the person would not succeed. I tried, as you know, for 10 years to convince my mother to try what I knew and I know a lot and even though everytime she consented to try something that always worked, she wanted the doctor to heal her and approve it and not do something hard..change your lifestyle. although your dad is willing to make real changes, he is not really a believer. He wants to question everything and guarantees that do not exist.

Even the great Dr John R Christopher could not help his own very ill beloved sister..despite his decades of helping so many, miracle cures and healing the incurables, his family never sought him out or believed. One cannot force someone to do something. Please understand that...even if you found "the CURE" you seek and believed in it with all your heart, what good does it do if your dad does not believe, laughs, or doesn't do it.

Sometimes, unfortunately, either there are no answers or we cannot convince someone of our point of view and we just need to trust by telling god your will be done..whatever happens I will trust that you will make some good come of it.

"all things work for good to those who love God and are fitting into his plan"

One night doc Christopher got a phone call from his brother in law who said "Ray your favorite sister is dying..she will not make it till morning" (she had dropsy and was swelled to twice her size).."if you want to see her and say goodbye you must come tonight...then almost as an afterthought the brother in law added (for the first time in his life) oh and Ray can you bring some herbs" (story told on his videotape) His own brother in law and sister did not until all hope was gone, try to ask from one who knew so much,,and ray healed her and she survived the night and the next morning actually cooked for them.

My sister's husband was diagnosed with skin cancer this week. Knowing they are medically oriented, I pondered if I should share what I know..my son advised me by saying.."they know you are an expert..do not say anything unless they ask as you will just waste your time as they will likely not do it but if they themselves come then you know they want to have what you know and try it." I said nothing and luckily he then had the surgery and it was an early treatable stage.

What I am trying to say is you can believe it all you want and I know you do...but unless your dad is willing to do it and do it right not just a short time, leaving stuff out, designing his own, drinking juices he likes rather than ones best for the disease and do it full steam ahead, it will ultimately fail...now if you did it, you would do it right and trust..but you cannot do it for your dad. only he can and mom must do her part even if it is hard.

I know you believe in Jesus and though He gives us all a free gift of salvation unless we take it, it does us no good and that is the situation with YOUR dad.

I know you are hoping for someone who has healed themselves and lots of evidence so that you can convince your father, and assure his recovery, but this is not the answer God gave him. You know the answer God gave him via you. It was right after you prayed but if you (he) cant for whatever reason take it, it is useless for you (him).


Remember long ago when I thought you were Jensen when I mentioned to you how Christopher was in the morgue and but for a flicker of an eyelash Schulze would not have learned from him how to cure the incurables..remember how if that teenaged friend of schulze not died on the operating table, he would not have fled the hospital and sought out a different way etc..and been able to help so many of the hopeless cases down the road..all those improbabilities just happening is not likely..do you remember that email?

The answer fell by God's hand right in your laps but you did not take it as one does not accept salvation...thus you keep searching...if I would have found all the miraculous stuff you did when I sought for my dying father before computers, I would have leaped for joy for God's help. do you know that so many people would do anything to know all I have taught you and exposed you too so they could attempt healing themselves. the knowledge that is not good enough for you would be so coveted by so many who languish and die in pain and discomfort on dialysis.

It is also a little unfair to take people's time when it is most unlikely your father will do it..you said yourself several times how stubborn he is and how he listens to noone. They could use their time helping people who will try what they say. i know this may sound harsh but the reader does not know all the OP did and how much communications I have had with him offline that prompts me to say this as I am keeping a lot of it confidential.

But though I would have done anything to save my own father who really tried everything and wanted to live for his children and wife, he died for lack of knowledge..he tried though..all I knew then little as it was. I would have done anything to have known about schulze and what you now know.

But from feeling I failed my dad in not finding "the Cure", I searched the rest of my life and I finally found what I had sought and I use it to help those who want help.

I am most certain God's hand is in all this and even from my mother's suffering, good has come if from nothing else using it to show people what dialysis did to her in 2 short years, so that her story of their future might motivate them to do what they needed to do to try to prevent that same future. I am certain she is happy I am trying to help others suffering from this illness as she did have a heart for kidney patients.

Again coq10 and the mushrooms might help, dandelion, parsley root, water dialysis etc. See the 30 steps. read the manual and watch the save your life videos

Also there have been successes with urine therapy. There are links in the 30 steps to that.

It is not that I doubt your commitment to your dad. He is so lucky he has you and your mom trying for him, but in the long run it is his body..he has not shown the desire to do what is needed despite knowing how his death would affect you and his wife...has he not told the doctor many times..he does not care if he dies.

Sometimes, friend, we just have to let go and realize that we are not in control no matter how much we want something or try or search. We can only control ourselves not others.

I, too searched, all the time, for my mom but before she went on dialysis and after, but my mom never searched herself, rejected everything I said, never tried to change her ways and what she ate, etc. They must do it for themselves..even the sick ones Schulze pushed them out if they did not do the all he said they needed to do and if they did not do it, he kicked them out of the clinic and refused to work with them.

when he advises us to stop trying when the sick person does not do what is needed, it is because he knows how strong willed people are and stubbornly cling to their misconceptions/perceptions and beliefs and that we would just be wasting our time..we cannot do the program and steps for them..if they do not think it is important enough, it does not matter how much we search..does he not think you are just a kid? And laugh at your attempts to get him to listen...just a kid... Well, a kid with the maturity, knowledge, perseverance and love of ten men but if he can't see that, all your quest will just be in vain. You can bring a horse to water but you cannot make him drink.

He cant do half measures...I feel maybe he should either do the incurables and 30 steps and any other good advise you get and do it hard or just go with what the doctors say..you are right...alternative health can heal and often does but dialysis though you feel better in the short run always destroys your body and it all leads to the grave. Still it is his choice..most would take their loved ones pleas into account..if he won't, you tried.

I think maybe since he does just 10% of what you advise, maybe your time would be better spent rather than searching for the illusive cure but in making every day with you and your dad memorable, close, fun, full and wonderful, you might ask him to write you a letter or do a tape for when you graduate, get married, find a career, have a child, toc,,live or die, you will have at least a piece of him on your memorable days of life.

Also be careful of not letting your once in a lifetime teen years slip by you and when you pray change your prayers from help to help me trust you no matter what..tell God your desires and needs and trust that whatever happens, he will make good come from it someday and practice being grateful...even for these trying circumstances cause when we do often miracles happen..it is so rare to thank god for sorrow but he says in his word --"be thankful in all circumstances"..

Alessandro, be grateful that people have tried so hard to help you, grateful for all you learned that can help if not your dad--you, your mom and others down the road, grateful for all those who were brave enough to try when THEY feared they might die from the things schulze did and made them do, grateful for those tried but who did die so for from them did schulze learned and he could learn from it and the gratitude of the dead ones relatives who knew how hard he tried to save their loved one show he truly cared despite his gruff exterior and forcefulness, be grateful to those who tried despite fear and they succeeded and beat death and lived so that you could know it worked.

Be grateful that you have a dad who loved/loves you so dearly, grateful for the health plan of your country..I know how badly you want your dad to live. but sometimes we don't know what to do when face with a hard choice, we gamble and sometimes we lose like those of schulze's clinic who died or the teen with the same heart valve problem of schulze who trusted the doctors and died on the operating table or the person who trust the doctor and the doctor saves his leg or the one who trusts doctor and loses his leg, the people who were scared to do what the doctor said not to (use alternative health) and lived who charged full ahead and believed..

Life and reality is hard --many take risks..some times you win and sometimes you lose, but in the end, for those who believe there is a better world where we will reunite with our loved one..though life seems long, in truth, it is gone in the flash of an eye..we are a teen one day, a spouse and parent the next and old the next..we look back and say when we look at our children wasn't it yesterday I nursed him or combed her hair..we do not know why we are here or why we suffer...but we as humans have hope that one day it will be a better day.

And even though we suffer we also have much good in life. The future is promised to noone but for a slit second of acceleration, I could have be dead or brain damaged or paralyzed in my recent serious car wreck..it was then I knew that no matter how good a lifestyle I lived, I could still be gone the next day..when my relative died recently in her 30s after a five year battle with cancer, noone could have dreamed her husband the same age would go before her in death...killed in a car wreck in the line of duty. someone who was supposed to have been dead 20 years ago outlives their doctor...we do not know any of our fates really. that is why it is best to live every day whether sick or well as if it might be our last.

Did you ever try letting go and seeing what god allows to happen? I do not think I have ever known anyone so young who sought so hard but if dad is not going to do something (dialysis) or not do something (incurables/30 steps) or even take enough coq10, you are not going to be able to stop him or by now you would have.

You say you pray everyday but did you know that God puts limits on himself...that affect answers..

1. he cannot do anything evil

2 he does not violate the laws of nature such as gravity to help, for instance, a baby falling from a high window

3 he does not violate our free will.

Your dad can block the answers god sends by being stubborn, not yielding, thinking he has all the answers, over thinking, and other ways he does what he chooses. God allows us to have free will even if our choices harm us..happens all the time.


When my husband left me for another women, I prayed and had people praying. Yet my husband did what HE wanted even though he was shown god's words on how much he hates divorce in Malachi..even though friends came to talk to him..he just blocked out what they said and rationalized away everything even his kid's welfare to get his own way.


Sometimes we block the answers god is trying to send us or we miss them or chose to do it how we want it.

I know maybe on first reading this sounds harsh, maybe on 2nd reading, you will understand what I am saying, Alessandro

if this is not Alessandro-- which I am sure it is as we both know your past which I will not mention even if you say it isn't there are too many clues that it is, but in the small event it is someone else, I ask your forgiveness.

For you, I would recommend the incurables program immediately done EXACTLY as directed--- EXACTLY do not leave one thing out or alter anything....now that they fixed his collapsed lung, he should be able to drink the fluids schulze recommends more as that pressure is gone(not to Jensen /Alessandro/and his other aliases etc) and also do as many as the 30 steps as possible and keep adding stuff...do more not less.

I am sorry for the length of this post. I hope you find what is best for you and your family.


Personally I believe Dr Schulze and Dr Christopher's case histories..when they say they got non-working organs working again and people on dialysis off and all the rest.. I believe.

Noone can promise you a miracle but I think the info I shared on here and with you personally was some of the best out there like that in the 30 steps combined with the full incurablesa good chance of winning

Why is it you will believe someone who would maybe come on here and say I did it (schuze's or other way) and it healed me, but NOT believe what schulze who did hands on and gross work with the "walking dead" ..a man with decades of personal experience working with thousands of dying people who saw miracle after miracle but only after they did what he had them do.

Blessed are those who do not see and yet believe"














 

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