Re: Day in Court by turiya ..... Conspiracy Forum
Date: 5/15/2009 10:31:26 AM ( 15 y ago)
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I had some difficulty with my left eye for about a week's time and had to take a break from looking at a computer screen.
Lately, I've been wanting to know more about Winston's background. There is not much out there that pertains to what and where he has been. Got a feeling he was involved, or at least, had indirect links with some of the heavies that are presently doing in time, like Roger Elvick, Sam Kennedy.
I am getting ready to post some things I've found with regard to Roger Elvick. He's known as the creator of Redemption, only because he was slammed into prison, along with others (perhaps some of the Montana Freemen) that were, seemingly, conspiring to defraud the U.S. Treasury, or at least that is what the establisment (status quo) claim is.
Winston mentions in his Kelowna Disc #6 that some of the fellows he was working with got put in the slammer for some of the technology that wasn't quite right. He was talking with regard to a "Bill of Exchange" Quoted remarks from that video go something like this:
"Anyway, what we are looking at is a BILL OF EXCHANGE.—Exchange, we going to get something from one place and put it in another place. In order to do that what must we have to have?—INTERMEDIARY to do the exchange. A Bill of Exchange has to be funded somehow. You have to find someway to fund a Bill of Exchange. Because what was happening earlier on was some of the guys were trying to write Bills of Exchange with nothing to back them. They were trying to write them on Treasury Accounts that did not exist. As a consequence, they got thrown right in the slammer for check kiting."
From my studies of the Revenue Laws/Income tax, I've been wanting to know more of his background as it pertains to this. I know some of the earlier sovereigns were a bit misconstrued with regards to their understanding of the constitutionality of the so-called income tax. They believed it to be unconstitutional, which it is not (in my understanding), which had caused many people that followed these early patriots into being labeled "tax protesters", and many to enter into court with many various forms of frivolous arguments in that regard, resulting in jail time.
I've read somewhere that Elvick believed that because of the bankruptcy and the creation of the U.S. Corp. that that made us all employees of a bankrupt corporation, which he believed that in fact we are all actually the employers, and should be providing EINs on tax forms instead of SSNs or TINs. This I tend not to go along with. So it has caused me to try to resolve the confusion regarding this part of the Redemption and where Winston sits with regard to this. I think it will resolve itself the more I go through his lectures.
I do think he has discontinued his DVD(s) on 1099OID because the technology is proving to not be quite accurate... as of yet, and doesn't want to get folks in deep doo doo. I still have to look at what he says about this in Disc #8.
I am just getting back to the Kelowna tapes and looking forward to his discs 7 & 8 where he gets into UCC Financing Statement and the OIDs and banking. I am trying to transcribe much of the material so I have a written version to review, which takes some time to do.
And so it goes.
Later...
turiya
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