Date:   5/3/2009 3:48:08 PM ( 15 y ago)
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>>>It is a lot of trouble to make Dr. Christopher's anti-plaque formula.<<<

Yes, it is a VERY time consuming & complicated process.

>>>Can I just make anti-plaque formula by mixing super tonic with BF&C tincture.<<<

Absolutely not. Well, you CAN make anything you want to make - but these are two TOTALLY different formulas, each designed to work with the specific herbs in a VERY specific way...and each with their own exact ratios.

The "active" infection fighter (anti-bacterial/viral) in Dr. Christopher's formula is EIGHT ounces OF GARLIC JUICE...it will take 2-3 pounds or more of garlic to get that much juice. There is NO garlic in the BF&C - in the perfect ratio with the other herbs.

>>>I think another herbalist with a forum in curezone has been doing it this way, although his formula is not named anti-plaque formula. But judging from his ingredients, he was mixing many of his tinctures (including comfrey, lobelia, and so on) with garlic juices, vinegar, and honey, and he stated that his formula is very powerful because they have countless herb ingredients in one formula.<<<

I am VERY sorry (and alarmed) to hear of this. Dr. Christopher's Anti Plague formula is NOT a blend of "tinctures". Each herb is decoction (water extraction) boiled down from 16 oz to 4 oz to be extremely strong/potent, each in equal ratio with the other, except for the comfrey extraction (32 oz to 8oz) & garlic juice (8oz), stabilized by vegetable glycerine. Of course I have no idea what "ratio" and extraction process he/she may be using, so perhaps I shouldn't be 'sorry & alarmed' (???)

>>>What if I mix half gallon of super tonic with several oz's of BF&C tincture? What do you think?<<<<

I think you'll have a very interesting conglomeration of herbs that tastes phenomenally foul, that is not nearly as effective as either of the original formulas. It seems EVERYBODY is forgetting or ignoring the fact that Dr. Schulze s Super Tonic is only 'plague worthy' when a LOT of Echinacea tincture is added.

Dr. Schulze s Super Tonic mix (5 herbs in Cider Vinegar) is NOT ENOUGH to fight a "plague" - he adds MAJOR AMOUNTS of Echinacea tincture to create the the "plague" formula!!!!!! (see below)

So if you mixed the Super Tonic (crushed garlic, which is not even CLOSE to the same efficacy as pure garlic juice), with BFC (which has NO garlic juice, and is SUBSTANTIALLY "out of ratio" to the original formula, and is missing Uva Ursi), you'd be getting (approx) less than half of THE most effective ingredient...AND you'd be getting ZERO Echinacea.

The ONLY "mix" I would dream of doing with these two formulas would be to add Echinacea Tincture to Dr. Christopher's Anti Plague formula (as Dr. Christopher did not have access to the current data on Echinacea, so he was unaware of it's EXTREME immune bolstering properties). And/or I would alter Super Tonic to include garlic JUICE rather than just plain crushed garlic, and add Echinacea tincture to that (as Dr. Schulze requires for the "plague".)

Folks, the two "Active Ingredients" in these two plague formula are GARLIC JUICE & ECHINACEA TINCTURE - none of the other ingredients in EITHER formula have enough "oomph" to be any bacterial or viral pathogen. The other herbs ARE great adjuncts, but without the Garlic you've got very little anti-bacterial/viral action, and without the Echinacea you have only and INDIRECT effect on the immune system.

I believe (truly) that experimenting with herbal formulas is how some of the greatest formulas known have been created. I also believe that a 'crisis situation' is NOT a time to be experimenting.

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The original formulas are below:


SUPER TONIC (Schulze) (the numbers before each herb is the 'parts' used of each herb or concentrated decoction):
1 Garlic
1 Ginger Root
1 Onion
1 Cayenne
1 Horseradish
Tincture in Apple Cider Vinegar two weeks or longer

--for a NORMAL cold or flu or as a preventative, 1 oz 3x daily, gargled and then swallowed)
--for PLAGUE - DAY 1: mix 1 oz Super Tonic, 16oz Apple Juice with TWO ounces OF ECHINACEA TINCTURE - drink throughout the day. DAY 2: mix 1/2 oz Super Tonic, 16 oz Apple Juice with ONE OUNCE OF ECHINACEA TINCTURE - drink throughout the day.

BFC

6 Oak bark
3 Marshmallow root
3 Mullein herb
2 Wormwood
1 Lobelia
1 Skullcap
6 Comfrey root
3 Walnut leaf/bark
3 Gravel root

ANTI PLAGUE (Christopher)

4 ounces Black-Walnut concentrate
4 ounces Wormwood concentrate
4 ounces Marshmallow root concentrate
4 ounces Oak bark concentrate """"S
4 ounces Lobelia leaf or seed concentrate
4 ounces Mullein leaf concentrate
4 ounces Skullcap leaf concentrate
4 ounces Uva ursi, Hydrangea or Gravel root concentrate
8 ounces Comfrey root concentrate
32 ounces Apple cider vinegar
20 ounces Honey [raw, unfiltered and local is best]
20 ounces Glycerine
8 ounces Garlic juice [fresh, raw, organic]

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