Date:   5/2/2009 12:44:13 PM ( 15 y ago)
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My book.

I'll post what ingredients, and protocals the different formulas have in them. Compare the ingredients- and protocals, to the popular dewormers.

Many of the products the ND had me using, have a totally different blend of herbs than what is in Humaworm or other popular deworming products. Different herbs hit different parasites from a different angle.

The VRM products also have a different protocal than Humaworm's, and are normally sold through "professionals", who have the manual/instructions for the protocal in their office. It's important that if you are going to start on the VRM products, to follow their protocal as they have it layed out. It's also not cheap. But they did work well for me.

I would have never known about the Systemic Formulas products, or protocals, had it not been for the Alternative Dr. What I know made the difference for me too, was that he muscle tested me each month, with parasite vials, to see what I was killing at that time. He would then muscle test me with the different products to see which ones would hit what it was I was killing at that specific time, and at what dosages. And it changed.

Some of them continued to show that I needed to continue with them and keep killing whatever it was I was killing--such as the VRM2 that I kept muscle testing I needed for 5 1/2 months, namely for nematodes (roundworms/ascaris) I had to first make a committment that I was going to follow through with the protocal for the duration--which also included eating no red meat the entire time.

No, it was not easy, and it took a real committment, but I killed aLOT of roundworms, from large, thick ascaris, to the long, thin "spaghetti noodle" worms that people are calling toxicara.

One of the main differences with all of the VRM products, is that each one of them contains either bromelain or papain- which I think is far more important than people realize. Not only for helping to penetrate and "digest" the tougher skins of the parasites to kill them- (especially the tougher skinned tapeworms, and ascaris), but proteolytic enzymes work in other ways that are important too. They are "systemic", they aren't just for the digestive tract. There's much more to killing the parasites than just taking a round of parasite killing herbs for a month or so-as people here have found out once they have gotten into it. The proteolytic enzymes clean up the stuff left from the parasites, including stages like the dead, calcified cysts, and the cyst forms that are hidden behind the biofilms, (that normally are not recognized by the immune system). They also help clean up the biofilms. If you do a search for "proteolytic enzymes", they are also used in alternative treatments for conditions such as cancer. IP6 also.


Once they target the cysts that are hidden in the "immune free zone", the immune system is able to then recognize they are something that need to be hit. IP6 and Bromelain are two things Newport mentions for hitting the Tapeworm stages (cysts) that are still left even after killing the tapeworm. It's not enough to just kill the adult parasites- that's when the real clean up begins, and it's most likely why people are finding themselves in trouble. It would be better to not start killing parasites, than it would be to take something short-term without following through with continued clean-up long term.

The purpose of no meat during the entire duration of the VRM program for roundworms, was for the proteolytic enzyme to target the worm, not the protein. That's all the Zymex2 is, bromelain, papain and ficin enzymes. Taken in between meals, and away from protein. Don't stop with just taking the 8 days or whatever it is on the Zymex 2. Get your own bromelain or bromelain/papain, and continue taking it the same way, to go with whatever else you are taking. Be sure to be taking cloves for eggs. They were something the ND always had me taking extra of, even if it was in some of the formulas already.

It was a fortunate thing for me too, that the Alternative Dr had first had me on a month of intense colon cleansing, prior to me getting a head-start and starting myself on deworming. Liver Flushing is also part of his protocal.

For the first 3 months, I continued to use the broad-spectrum dewormers, and they worked well. It was Barefoot's, and the Liver Dr. Sandra Cabot's dewormer together.

HOWEVER, after that, they stopped showing they were working for me!! That is important. He then had me start with the other herbal blends he knew about and had access to. That's when it started getting more specific for the type of parasites I was killing, and the different herbal blends showed to be what would be the most effective. Once they get into it, most people will find they don't have just one or two types of parasites. As you are finding out, some of them are darn tough to kill too, but yes, they can be killed effectively with herbals--and no, I did not get "scattering".

Rabbitears,( who used to have the Microbe Detectives forum, which still has good information archived from studies she has done), has talked to me alot in private emails about what she has gone through with the parasites. You can put in a search on this forum and read many of her back posts. Taking herbs that are too weak, is what she is sure contributed to alot of her problems that later turned into a mess. The drugs she got prescriptions for, that were taken for a few days each, caused even more problems. Killing off a whole bunch of Ascaris at one time with the internal Russian Sputnik Zapper that is swallowed (Barefoot talks about it) caused a wad of Ascaris to block her intestines. That's one of the reasons to also be concerned about the "magic bullets". It's dangerous to think you can kill off a big bunch of worms at once. She was fortunate that two consecutive colonics got the wad moved out, but surgeries are done for that very thing. Look on youtube and put in "ascaris".

For most people, the broad-spectrum formulas, taken at the dosages recommended, fall into that "too weak" category as the parasite killing goes on. I'm not here to bad-mouth anybody's product--but what people need to know with the herbs is that it is important to start out with less and build up--but it's also important to increase the dosages, and to not use the same things continually. Never once, did I muscle test show that just one product was all I needed. How long was I seeing large, visible parasites and egg sacks at different times when large parasites were killed? 14 solid months, day in and day out, non-stop. I was not "lightly infected". Never, ever, ever- will you hear me say I am all cleaned up, or that I am done. Ever. It will be a lifelong process, and when people think they are sick of it, and want to just be done and have them all killed once and for all--they are setting themselves up for disappointment and more frustration.

Again..WITH the parasites, also comes the bacterias, viruses, fungi/yeast/candida, cyst forms/biofilms, toxins, co-infections like Lyme's, mineral/vitamin deficiencies, weakened immune systems, glandular imbalances--and on and on.

The larger parasites, the two Tapeworms and large roundworms--started showing up 4-5 months after starting the deworming. Flukes of all different kinds/stages were the main thing I was killing in the first 3 months. Did I worry about "resistance". I didn't, not in the way he had me hitting them with the different products- not staying on the same one, and not stopping in the middle of killing them. He's told me more than once, that if a patient starts with him with killing parasites, and doesn't go the distance and quits on their own- he won't start them over again.



 

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