Date:   4/21/2009 9:25:27 AM ( 15 y ago)
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I am having a hard time following your logic. you say that only god gives man freedom, not governments. then you say that god turns away (does this mean takes away freedom) from those that have turned away from him. I don't know. This sounds like a convoluted idea to me. In my world, governments decide how much freedom the people have. god may give your spirit freedom, but i don't think he/she has much to do with the "freedom to worship, travel, marry, have children, and yes carry guns." Those "freedoms" are granted by the government.
 

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