Date:   4/1/2009 3:03:29 AM ( 15 y ago)
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Folks, there have been a LOT of people I've been helping for the past couple of years (via email and phone).  One of THE main reasons for this forum is so that far more people could have the benefit of what I've learned and put together, than just the select few I've had time in my life to assist. 

This email Q&A is from someone that (for over a year) has had unresolvable symptoms - but cannot make up their mind to try the Incurables Program (or even a gentle version of it).  If you sense any frustration or impatience in my replies, that's because it's in there :::grin:::  I cannot begin to tell you the countless amount of hours I've communicated with this person.

I'm doing my best to 'wean everybody' "to the forum" - but I realize that when ordering products a question or two pops up.  Once we have our storefront built & ready to use, hopefully the questions (except for those that are 'most personal' in nature) can be asked on the forum.  (you can always use your posting # if you want to remain totally anonymous).

At the end, this person asked what benefits have WE seen and the healing we have made happen - I think the list is pretty impressive :)

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(this first paragraph is what started the Q&A below it)

I understand, but what it's seems you're somehow 'missing' is these great healers were consistently able to cure ANYTHING, basically with the same basic protocol.  Because their protocol is the ONLY protocol that addresses the entire human body 'as a whole', not isolating each symptom or organ.  It addresses the physical, the mental/spiritual and puts the body back into a truly NORMAL state, which allows the body to do the healing in the way that only the body knows how to do perfectly.  We don't see much of this ANYwhere on CZ or the internet, because it's not popular to have to do anything but 'pop supplements' and do a few flushes/cleanses to achieve healing.  And that doesn't work - that's why in the last 5 years CZ has grown so rapidly with so many forums - nobody's getting healed and everybody's coming up with a new/better/easier way.  If they worked?  There wouldn't be all these thousands of people always searching.  And for most (very much like you), when they DO find it, they don't have enough information, there's not enough people sharing healing stories, and they simply don't want to do 'what it takes' to put our body back to it's natural state.


I find sutter and andreas moritz to be great guys too. they basically suggest the same as schulze with some individually differences. NOPE. There are a FEW similarities (great guys, for sure, with great intentions and some successes, too), but neither Mortiz or Sutter address it all like Schulze/Christopher...Sutter uses all KINDS of unnatural isolated supplements, de-emphasizing colon cleansing & proper eating/nutrition '(never heard of him mention kidney cleansing unless there was an obvious kidney issue - but I'm not sure): and if following Moritz it would take YEARS to accomplish what could be done in a couple of months on the IP - and of course, he uses the 'body typing' diet/treatment Arurvedic principles & options (many of which don't mix with strictly western methodologies, which some subscribe to), but Schulze/Christopher Gerson, et al., do not.  How many stories have we read of either consistently curing the most 'incurable' of diseases?

what about the bugs in schulzes program, sutter emphasizes that much? (I assume 'parasites' is meant by 'bugs)  :::sigh::: you keep saying how HARD and completely you've researched the Schulze program.   Parasites are always an issue.  Schulze addresses it with his Liver Tincture (containing Wormwood, Black Walnut hulls, Fennel seeds, small amount of garlic - all for parasites) - this tincture is taken at least 10 days a month on the IP.  And the daily raw garlic & cayenne.  It's a very unusual parasitic infestation that can withstand this.

to say they have no healing success is hard to believe.....but I cant comment on that.... I didn't say they have NO healing success, they're just not as consistent as combined/modified Incurables Programs of Dr. Schulze/Christopher et al.

for ex. there are docs in the natural healing szene who claim you cant get rid of heavy metals with natural cures. in fact its possible to detoxify them with oral chelation as long as they are inside of the digestive tract.  Of course, we can rid our bodies of heavy metals with bentonite clay externally and internally

how do you want to detoxify something which is inside the brain over the digestive tract? heavy metalls dont participate in the "normal" metabolism, so its not that easy to detox them via nutrition and with chlorella or things like that.  Both bentonite clay & activated charcoal aDsorb, not aBsorb.  They PULL metals to themselves wherever they are.  If you take a bentonite clay bath and you have lot of heavy metals, you can actually see the metals in the bathtub when you're done.  The pull right through the skin.  Or, if taken internally, pull out of the tissues and go to the bentonite clay in the digestive tract...to be safely flushed away - rather than released into the bloodstream.  Bentonite clay packs to the head are VERY effective at removing metals that have crossed the blood/brain barrier.  As far as things like chlorella & cilatro, they basically stimulate the body's release of mercury and other heavy metals from the brain and CNS into other tissue and the bloodstream.  That's a GREAT adjunct to using the Bentonite clay, but they should be used together.  The body stored the metals 'safely away' because it couldn't get them out.  Simply releasing them again without something to pull them safely/carefully out of the body, has the potential for harm, I think.

so they say heavy metals are not natural in fact they cant get detoxified with naturals....

so, this one can believe or not. I dont know it. "They" are wrong.

It is hard for me to just believe in one source of information.... its all about trust at least....It's NOT about "trust", it's about EVIDENCE.  The healings of Dr Schulze/Christopher (and Gerson, et al) are amply evident throughout the world.


I always get in contact with that kind of stuff and after reading all these things I finally get a strange feeling about it. And that is one main part of healing I guess... To trust in what you are doing, if its placebo or healthy or bad for you.  Schulze & Christopher both treated MANY animals.  The animals didn't have to believe in it for it work.  The thing with the IP is that there's NO potential for harm - it's 100% NATURAL - oh sure, we all hit some bumps in the road when we detox and disturb 'decades old' build up toxic sludge and restore our body, but it's a no brainer.

unfortunately its like magic for me... i seem to attract these negative views about everything You keep LOOKING for them. I thought it was great before. (well, its not hard to find negative information on curezone at least, but I dont have the intention to find negative stories but I do find them....) Fill your mind with the hundreds/thousands of stories of people being cured from the worst of diseases.  If that can happen consistently with 'the worst', it will absolutely take care of 'the least'.

so in the end its not so much that I think it isnt working what you are saying (and i repeated that many times) its more about the single parts of what the program consists, where everybody has another opinion which confuses me.  Nope, it's all mostly about the doing it & getting the results.  And it's about doing everything "all at once".  You don't restore a car one part every month.  If you did, the first part would be all clogged up again before you got to the last part...and you'd NEVER have ALL systems running well at the same time.  Again, for the body to heal and restore itself, it needs ALL PARTS WORKING TOGETHER...anything else is a "hit or miss" (hopefully a hit).


what kind of problem you healed with schulzes program that you are so confident about it?  Between Rocky53 and me, we've lost 110 pounds between us.

I cured 15 years of 'genetic' depression

I cured lipomas and a long standing issue with severe boils & carbuncles (this can return slightly when I'm under stress and don't get enough lymphatic flow, but it's a 95% cure, and it's "impossible" to cure lipomas)

I stopped/reversed premature menopause & extreme hormonal issues (which included a 6-10 pound monthly weight gain, excessively/dangerously heavy bleeding/clotting (that required 2 super-plus tampons concurrently, every 2 hours for 2-3 days), extreme pain & cramping (I took 4, 250mg ibuprofen every two hours around the clock for 2-3 days) and brutal pms & emotional swings for 2 weeks monthly; my period is now totally normal; I am free of pain & cramping;  I have virtually no emotional swings (maybe for a few hours); I have only less than a pound of fluid gain; and the bleeding is normal & healthy.

I cured PCOS (although I may have a bit of insulin resistance left - I still have weight to lose, but that's not the fault of the program, it's the fault of not sticking with the exercise & "physical flow' part of the program)

I have reversed adrenal exhaustion/stress twice.  Both times it was so severe that my pupils became unreactive to a flashlight in the bathroom mirror, my hair was falling out by the handfuls daily, I become SO hyper-reactive that there were a couple of times I actually threw myself onto the floor screaming, kicking and crying (over very inconsequential issues) - it can return when I'm under stress (and not getting exercise, being outside and doing my barefooting to release the EMFS from sitting at this monitor 16 hours a day), but stress is the major cause of adrenal fatigue - so that's not a 'program' issue, it's a self-discipline issue.

I have eliminated liver flukes.  And I still have one major issue with which to contend.  I have limited movement in my right shoulder (typical frozen shoulder) and a fairly constant liver ache.  I believe it's because I flushed 8 times without addressing liver flukes (hence flushing/pushing massive amounts of debris into a few places where it built into a solid blockage).  It's also possible I have a tumor. It is regularly relieved in varying degrees by coffee enemas, castor oil packs, and flushing.  A few months ago I attempted an "8 flush series" (one flush a week) with daily coffee enemas.  I used Epsom Salt in every coffee enema, and the typical 3-4 tablespoons of Epsom Salt with the flushes.  At the end of the 4th week I was dealing my 2nd round of extreme adrenal distress (likely due to the ES being so hard on the kidneys, hence adrenal glands).  I was going to do some serious/dedicated liver work with the addition of liver massages, poke root & burdock (and 2x daily coffee enemas) while we were doing our recent 2 week juice fast.  But uhm...on about the 5th day of the juice fast, I woke up to find I had a new forum on CZ :)

Note: I suffer from an affliction (actually two afflictions) that I've seen happen to several with my level of knowledge; my mother-in-law who was cured of Stage IV terminal liver cancer also suffers from the same affliction.  Anyone else that had my liver issue would definitely deal with it.  But because I am absolutely positive that I can heal it 'whenever I get around to it', it doesn't really stress me out that much, and I know I'll get around to it eventually.  :(  My mother-in-law played this game, but played it too long.  She always had diabetic tendencies and issues (which of course, were totally resolved when she healed herself of the cancer) - BUT she has a MAJOR sweet tooth.  Knowing that she could deal with it 'whenever she got around to it', she waited too long, and her heart was horribly impacted in her later years.  After three ER visits for heart failure (about 5 years ago) and all kinds of symptoms of more advanced diabetes (and now being elderly and unable to stay in her own home alone), she became very scared, had to move in with her daughter, and opted to have a ICD (Implantable Cardioverter Defibrillators) which meant she had to start on a variety of heart meds & diuretics.  She's now 82 and fighting foot ulcers & vision loss.  It all happened because she was confident she could heal anything 'whenever she got around to it' :::sigh:::  My other affliction (a VERY common one among women) I spend more time helping others than I do taking care of myself.

Rocky53 has lowered his cholesterol by over 100 points; cured Peripheral Artery Disease; increased his circulation & heart strength immensely ('still has a bit of a way to go, as being a smoker since he was a teen, there's a lot to restore there); knocked out Adult ADD; he is working on a carotid artery blockage; his bloodwork is FLAWLESS.  Both of us have reversed all kinds of typical 'signs of aging' & lack of energy, and neither of us have had a cold or the flu for 7 years (we've been married 13 years, and before we found echinacea, we only had 2 colds and 1 flu in 13 years - that was high-dose Vitamin C, but we don't use it in anymore).  Rocky53 has to go to the VA yearly to maintain his benefits (that's how we know his bloodwork results); I haven't seen a physician in 13 years (except for the one bout with the flu, which was LONG before I knew of natural healing to the extent I do now, and desperately needed an IV to rehydrate and stop 3 days of vomiting).  By the way, Echinacea & Garlic are far safer and more beneficial than Vitamin C. I saw the psychiatrist 2x yearly that prescribed my antidepressents.    We've virtually eliminated meat from our diet and ingest VERY small quantities of dairy.  And :::drumroll please::: we have NEVER done the FULL IP completely for 30 days straight. 

Does it work?  I'd say it does.

Have a POWERFUL day!

Unyquity

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