Date:   2/23/2009 6:30:13 PM ( 15 y ago)
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Applogist site? I have no way of knowing, just as you have no way of knowing that Albert Pike had orgies with young boys. That is unless you were one of the young boys.

OK, InCH - ya got me there.  I was not one of those young boys Pike buggered in the woods.  Or maybe he didn't.  Likewise I was not alive during World War I or World War II, but I have good reason to believe they happened, though perhaps not nearly as much for the reasons we have been told.

And actually you do have a good way of finding out, but it would require you to take a look outside the apologists propaganda and look at what non-apologists have to say, compare the two and make a judgment.  The same as I did when deciding who to believe among the health freedom groups.

The site you referenced is a Masonic apologist site.  So, OK they did post about Pike and 33rd degree Masons.  The posted total whitewash and fluff.  Look at what the other side has to say to get an idea of their ludicrous attempt at cover up regarding Pike:

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/albertpikeandkkk.html

http://www.freedom-ministries.com/index.php?action=Confession_Leo_Taxilm_and_...

And they contend that one of the most famous founding Masons who has been described by other Masons as "the Masoic Shakespeare" and even "the Masonic Pope" is a obscure Mason that most members are never even aware existed?  They are so busted!

When it comes to 33rd degree Masons, I don't have to look elsewhere to refute the cover-up garbage they posted.  I was a member of a Masonic youth organization.  Both my legal guardians were 32nd degree Masons.  Yes, by and large the rank and file Masons below the 33rd Degree are good civic minded folks for the most part (notwithstanding that one of my legal guardians was once a member of the KKK, as was his father before him).

In many instance I am afraid that the same cannot be said about those above the 32nd degree.  I am still chilled by memories of a report from what I consider an unimpeachable source of a 33rd Degree Mason father's deathbed confession to his son.  Why would a father lie to his son and warn him away from Freemasonry with descriptions of the ritual of spitting on the cross and disavowing Christ, revelations that beyond the 32nd degree the Masons worship Baal and that one of the initiation rites involved human sacrifice (they took a drunk homeless person, tied him to the railroad track and watched him be cut into by the train)?

No, I was not there either - but I have no doubt that what was described was true and that it is unlikely to have been an isolated incidence.

"I also give people the benefit of the doubt until it has been proven that any assertions are backed up with irrefuteable facts."

Hoo boy, InCh - you're leaving yourself wide open with that one, given some of the stuff you posted during the height of the debate over the election farce between the illegal alien and his old guard running mate and the designated washed up runner up and his publicity stunt running mate!  Can we just agree that some of the stuff you posted was not quite irrefutable? LOL!

But hey, at least we agree that the only reason secret societies exist is to keep things secret from the public at large and that really is not likely to be a good thing.

DQ

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