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Date:   2/11/2009 7:52:02 PM ( 15 y ago)
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The Buddha said:

The homeless shramana cuts off the passions,
frees himself of his attachments,
understands the source of his own mind,
penetrates the deepest doctrine of Buddha,
and comprehends the dhamma, which is immaterial.

This much Buddha allows—that there is a dhamma, a natural law, which is immaterial. He will not say spiritual; he simply says which is immaterial. What is the dhamma? What is this law?

To understand Lao Tzu’s concept of tao, or the vedic concept of rita would be helpful. There must be something like a law which holds everything together. The changing seasons, the moving stars… the whole universe goes on so smoothly; it must have a certain law.

Jews, Christians, Mohammedans, Hindus, call that law ‘god’; they personify it. Buddha is not willing to do this. He says to personify god is to destroy the whole beauty of it, because that is an anthropomorphic, an anthropocentric, attitude. Man thinks as if god is just like man—magnified, quantitatively millions of times bigger, but still like man.
Buddha says god is not a person. That’s why he never uses the word ‘god’. He says dhamma, the law. God is not a person but just a force, an immaterial force. Its nature is more like a law than like a person. That’s why in Buddhism, prayer does not exist.

You cannot pray to a law; it will be pointless. You cannot pray to the law of gravitation, can you? It will be meaningless. The law cannot listen to your prayer. You can follow the law, and you can be in happy harmony with the law. or, you can disobey the law and you can suffer. But there is no pont in praying to the law.

If you go against gravitation you may break a few of your bones, you may have a few fractures. If you follow the law of gravitation, you can avoid the fractures—but what is the point in praying? Sitting before the icon and praying to the Lord—‘I am going for a journey, help me’—it is absurd.

Buddha says the universe runs according to a law, not according to a person. His attitude is scientific. Because, he says, a person can be whimsical. You can pray to god and you can persuade him, but that is dangerous. Somebody who is not praying to god may not be able to persuade him and god may become prejudiced—a person is always capable of prejudice.
And that’s what all the religions say—that if you pray, he will save you, if you pray you will not be miserable, if you can’t pray, you will be thrown into hell.

To think in these terms about god is very human, but very unscientific. That means god loves your flattery, your prayers. So if you are a praying person and you go regularly to church, to the temple, and you read the Gita and the Bible, you recite Koran, then he will help you; otherwise he will be very annoyed by you. If you say, ‘I don’t believe in god’, he will be very angry at you.

Buddha says this is stupid. God is not a person. You cannot annoy him and you cannot buttress him, you cannot flatter him. You cannot persuade him to your own way. Whether you believe in him or not, that doesn’t matter. A law exists beyond your belief. If you follow it, you are happy. If you don’t follow it, you become unhappy.

Look at the austere beauty of the concept of law. Then the whole question is of a discipline, not of prayer. Understand the law and be in harmony with it, don’t be in a conflict with it, that’s all. No need for a temple, no need for a mosque, no need to pray. Just follow your understanding.

Buddha says that whenever you are miserable it is just an indication that you have gone against the law, you have disobeyed the law. Whenever you are in misery, just understand one thing; watch, OBSERVER it, analyze your situation, diagnose it—you must be going somewhere against the law, you must be in conflict with the law. Buddha says it is not that the law is punishing you; no, that is foolish—how can a law punish you? You are punishing yourself by being against the law. If you go with the law, it is not that the law is awarding you—how can the law award you? If you go with it, you are awading yourself. The whole responsibility is yours—obey or disobey.

If you obey, you live in heaven. If you disobey, you live in hell. Hell is a state of you own mind when you are antagonistic to the law, and heaven is also a state of your own mind when you are in harmony.

(Excerpt taken from DISCIPLINE OF TRANSCENDENCE VOL. 1 Discourse #3)


 

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