Date:   1/24/2009 3:00:22 PM ( 15 y ago)
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OMG I'm a slow learner! Light bulb, now I'm getting some of what you have been saying Newport. I'll piece some of it together here. Please set me straight if I don't have it right yet.

From the Beck papers:
>>>>>>>Dr Phillip B Hylemon of the Medical College of Virginia suspects that more common bacteria, clostridia and eubacteria, may play a similar role in gallstones. He found that gallstone patients have 100 to 1,000 times as many of these bacteria in their intestines as do healthy people<<<<

Newport's answer:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1338773


>>>Certainly what HC has been screaming about for years and IMO the root cause of so many issues… This is a DNA altering critter that produces methanol which in turn allows extraction of Retro Viruses.
I wouldn't doubt that the combo of Clostridium and methanol in the liver are a major cause of liver stones .

Also from Newport:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1300784


>>>> believe Lupus is triggered by flukes, their bacteria (Clostridium) produces Methanol and depending on the organ they invaded that triggers a series of Retro Viruses to be extracted from RNA. One of them is Human endogenous retrovirus HRES-1.



THE LIGHT BULB--ahHA-- Clostridium comes off of the FLUKES, which produces the methanol. So, just killing the actual fluke, DOESN'T get rid of the problem! Right? It leaves behind the bacteria that have to be killed, Clostridia, the same one the Beck papers say is the cause of the stones-- (which releases the methanol, which triggers the Retro-viruses.)

If I'm getting it, this wouldn't set well with what many CZ people believe is going to "cure" the liver... because it would also be one of the key reasons that sick liver's will continue to be problems. Even if flukes have been killed, and regardless of how many gazillion Liver Flushes they do. (Am I wrong?) Then add in the toxins/metals that Liver Flushing alone won't get rid of (as many people think).

Throw in Lyme's, weakened immune system

And now the retro-viruses that are triggered by the methanol, that come off the Clostridia, which come off of the flukes (HIV as the example Newport is talking about here)

//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1340304


>>>No, what I mean is that Lyme dulls your immune response and allows certain critters to make their home in you.
To extract the Retro Viruses all you need is methanol which is produced by Clostridium, if you extract HIV and some of the others that cause Lupus and his situation stays long enough you become AIDS level.
At that point Threadworms can invade every organ and F.Buski can move into areas it usually doesn't. Even if later you manage to clear the Retro Viruses the damage is done.




 

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