Date:   12/18/2008 1:09:30 PM ( 17 y ago)
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First, read what happyhealthygal says, she is 100% correct.

Second, to reply to these statements:

"First of all the virus sets up a factory to generate copies of itself. The cell is then ruptured releasing the viruses to infect other cells. So the cells would be destroyed regardless. The free viruses can be destroyed before they have a chance to infect other cells."

True, true, and true. However, you seem to think that means the destruction of the HIV virus DNA, which is does NOT. HIV integrates itself with the host DNA. If you can kill the viruses in the cell as they are being produced (assuming intracellular ozone will do this) it will NOT kill the host cell DNA, where the HIV DNA exists. Therefore the HIV will still be alive and functional. The ONLY way to kill HIV once it has integrated is to destroy the host cell.

"And would destruction of some CD4 cells be all that detrimental? Not really. People can have zero CD4 counts and still be healthy otherwise. This is because the CD4s are not the only immune cells and they do not govern the rest of the immune cells."

Again, read what happy wrote. The CD4 cells are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to a healthy immune system. You CANNOT be healthy without them. True, they are not the only immune cells, but all the immune cells function together in a synergistic relationship, losing one means losing the ability of many others to function correctly.

"This is why HIV cannot cause any diseases in man. It cannot collapse the immune system."

I am not sure where you get this insane opinion, but you obviously have had no experience in basic anatomy and immunology. As previously stated, the loss of CD4 cells will in essence shut down the entire immune system, which destroys the host ability to combat infections. You are correct that HIV itself cannot cause a "disease", it destroys the immune system such that any disease that the host gets will kill the host because it has no ability to combat the disease. HIV does not kill, it just allows every other disease kill the host in advanced cases(even simple problems like the common cold).
 

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