Re: mms exposed! by SilverFox ..... MMS - Miracle Mineral Solution Debate
Date: 10/11/2008 4:50:17 PM ( 16 y ago)
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Hello Maurie,
It is wonderful to hear of your, and your mothers, great improvement in health.
I think it is wonderful that you and your mom were able to work under your doctors supervision and figure out a way to use Miracle-Mineral-Supplement productively.
Jim Humble has brought the idea of using sodium chlorite into the spot light, but then he dropped the ball thinking he had arrived, when he was just starting on the journey. His original Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol was, reportedly, very effective with malaria, but then he changed the activation and changed everything. In spite of the fact that we can not verify anything he listed in his book, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and state that the original protocol may help people with malaria.
If Jim Humble was a responsible person, he would have become alarmed with the accounts of vomiting, nausea, and diarrhea, and recognized that these are a sign of chlorine dioxide poisoning. Instead he calls it a "herx" reaction and advises people to "embrace" it.
Those of us who have worked around these chemicals have seen people overcome with them and it is a vary serious situation. I suppose it is OK to "walk on the edge," but I must admit that it makes me nervous. I would rather people thoroughly discuss this with their doctors and move a little slower in their quest for health.
Jim Humble has also dropped the ball by not fully studying the chemicals he is using. I read a recent response that he wrote stating that the doses he is dealing with have around 10 parts per million of chlorine dioxide in them. I have run a lot of tests on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and it takes a lot more dilution than he is advising to get the free chlorine dioxide down to 10 PPM, and along with the free ClO2, there is also the available ClO2 which is a lot higher.
The push for everyone on the MMS protocol to get to 15 drops, 3 times a day, and stay there for a couple of weeks comes directly from Jim Humble. He does pay lip service to lowering the dose for children, and hints that it may be prudent to base the dose upon weight, but then goes on to advise people to strive for reaching 15 drops.
Fortunately there is a support forum that keeps advising people to revise their protocol.
I think that if Jim Humble was a responsible person, he would have a team of medical people and chemical people to discuss and study the various protocols, and also reach out to the industrial use of these chemicals to determine the proper use of them.
Many of us have only been involved with MMS for a very short time, and many of us have had discussions with medical, chemical, and industrial people. The big problem is that there is no data to draw from. You say that MMS helped your candida. Do you feel confident enough to advise everyone who has candida to use MMS? What if you are doing damage to another part of your body and are not aware of it yet?
I advise people who want to try MMS to begin by having a set of blood tests done so they can evaluate their progress. I also advise them to discuss it with their family doctor so they can be kept under observation for any adverse effects. This is also a way to "introduce" this product to the medical profession.
I was listening to a doctor discuss mild electro shock therapy used for promoting bone healing after fractures. He admitted that he was skeptical about its benefits, but there was so much anecdotal evidence to support its benefits, he was changing his mind. I think the same thing would happen with MMS. If a million people were able to document positive results from taking it, the medical profession would stand up and take notice.
Bruce has brought up some very important safety concerns. I have demonstrated that you can get the same results using lower concentrations of sodium chlorite that are considered safe, by all, for shipping, yet Jim Humble insists on using a higher concentration product, and needlessly exposing them to hazards.
For example, if you spill some MMS on a cloth, it has the possibility of spontaneously catching fire after it has dried. This does not happen with lower concentrations of sodium chlorite. Bruce has seen this happen, and Jim Humble remains ignorant of this hazard.
I know that most of us try to be careful, but accidents happen. I would rather be on record shouting about safety than hiding behind the probability that it shouldn't happen.
How about you?
I would have a lot more respect for Jim Humble if he returned to Africa to find out why the clinics there don't remember him, and once again established himself at the forefront of malaria treatment. He also should have stuck to malaria. When asked about other diseases, he should have simply stated that MMS worked for malaria, and he doesn't know about other diseases. It may, or may not work, but more studies are needed.
Instead, Jim Humble insists on using basically the same protocol for everything saying that if you are not finding relef you just haven't taken it for long enough. He insists on using a high concentration solution of sodium chlorite, insists on using an activation that is inefficient, insists on using improper dilutions then tries to cover this up by adding juice and eating apples, and won't take the time to become educated in this technology.
Dr. Hesselink is beginning to grasp the bigger picture, and perhaps he can influence Jim Humble to continue on beyond where he started.
I think acidified sodium chlorite can be beneficial, but you need to find the proper protocol, and you need to be monitored for adverse effects. The nature of ClO2 is that it immediately works. If you don't find results immediately, you probably need to move on. I have not seen any reason to continue to take MMS over a long term, but once again there have been no studies on this.
Good luck on your journey and stay healthy.
Tom
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