Date:   8/14/2008 1:32:42 PM ( 16 y ago)
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Sometimes one needs to ask themselves if they will think outside the box and make their choice between allopathic and naturopathic as the two system are fundamentally very different.

they must chose between God and nature modalities used by mankind for eons or by men and a hundred year old system and pharmaceutical drugs from a profit laden system that is so close minded they will not even rarely let studies about herbs and other safe, effective, natural treatments be published in medical journals without pulling out their advertising dollars as a precedent and in retaliation and closing down down medical journals who dare to let doctors-- let alone the public --know about these cures.

what if we are tired of playing their game?

Sometimes one must weigh the costs of not doing something against the risks of doing it. That canned "do not" do blank "without consenting your doctor" is on everything..don't exercise over a certain age or don't do this or take that that without doctor's consent..much of the time if you do tell them you want to try something or you read something..they just laugh at what you want to do if you do ask them for their OK, they tell you it is worthless or dangerous and are just totally uneducated in anything natural as that is the one the AMA and the drug companies and this country wants it. Most people learned long ago never to even ask..to just do it if you want to as they will rarely approve it.

thank god for freedom of speech and of the written word..we are so brainwashed into believing everyone without the name MD after their name is an idiot, is clueless, uneducated and a quack...or so many of us are scared crapless to do a thing without doctor's ok...so many who have dare to fight the fears of their family, friends and the routine scaring of their doctor have been about to laugh in the doctor's face when they get cured of his allegedly incurable disease.

God is the physician..he gives us the healing things of herbs full of chemicals for every ill, air, water, sun, movement, love, laughter, our minds, natural foods. Just as He designed breastfeeding to be the perfect system of nurturing and nourishing our young and man has never been able to top that as they keep finding new vitamins, and nutrients and interactions in the milk plus the emotional benefits cannot be improved upon by man, so do do his healing modalities simple and of nature find a superiority to man's knowledge.

We are taught from day one that we know nothing about our health..in truth using God/nature modalities and our own gut instincts makes us equal or better physicians to ourselves than we ever realize.

You got yourself sick with your lifestyle and you can get well by changing it and adding the good things God gave to heal. The body is designed to heal and repair itself and we need only stop doing the bad stuff and give it what it requires to detoxify, and rebuild new, healthier cells.

It is so about the money..modern medicine...expensive, complex machines and expensive, patented drugs that makes billions off keeping us ill.. drugs that many times makes you worst and give them more revenue with this system of medicine and banning all others in this country (USA)

It pays to keep the hospital beds full, the diet crappy, and the environment sucky, and the patients dependent and ill as much as reasonable. It we actually learned how to heal ourselves, so many would be out of a job all their training for naught. Although, there are many compassionate people in the medical field, it is the system itself that is flawed. Doctors forgot first do no harm and they themselves are brainwashed, repeatedly either learning nothing about herbs, nutrition, etc except the minimum and think they possess the only certain, prescribed cures and routines. If they do think outside the box, they are ostracized, penalized, even a few have their office invaded by armed guards and their licenses stripped from them.

This is a system designed for profit off the sick and dying and therein lies it's flaw. Doctors should be paid, not if you are sick but if they keep you well and healthy and if they get no money for making you better, they will work harder to keep you well as this is where they make their money..but we all know the system is not about people but about the bottom line.

Even doctors get sad they cannot help some of their patients..why do they then, deny the reality of other ways and take the hope from them discouraging them from following routines that have saved other hopeless people who took the plunge not of fear but of faith. And it is not groundless faith but faith based on years of historical anecdotal cures and on many testimonies from good and spiritually minded people, often backed by case studies, clinical trials and lab tests.

In another book, "25 ways to have the cleanest kidneys" on page 24, Dr schulze states



http://issuu.com/gordonmorton/docs/dr._schulze_25_ways_cleanest_kidneys?mode=...


that he has seen every organ, especially ones the doctors said were dead, come alive again with with natural modalities and herbal treatments..that he had "numerous patients on dialysis because of kidney failure who by changing their food program, and putting them on herbal programs and natural healing routines, they got their kidneys working again""it's not over" he says" I can tell you that..it is not over"

He says that tomorrow is what you believe and do today. and that means getting off dialysis, never giving up on yourself or a failed organ,. He says to stop doing what made you sick and start doing what will heal you. People come to him at every seminar and tell him they got off dialysis using his incurables program and part of his incurables program..a big part is juice fasting.

So a kidney patient needs to ask themselves if they will bet their risk on a potential cure or a prolonging of life that only leads to a severe decline in health and rather quick death that dialysis brings along with the crappy diet they put you on and the life tied to a machine for hours and hours.

Natural healing stands to improve their health and rebuilt their sick organs and it often does if you know what you are doing..Schulze and christopher did..even Hoxsey the quack who cured cancer was declared by the highest courts that his herbal did, in fact, cure cancer. He is the first to ever win a case against the AMA and he proved by having so many people comes with their hospital records and death sentences still there many years after they were supposed to be dead. what you work hard to heal your body and you trust, you actually get a positive payoff down the road unlike dialysis where the payoff is not that great.

Giving people options on a site where they are seeking this is not a sin even though I sense I irritate you greatly. I respond only in kind to how you spoke about/to me.

I cannot tell anyone what to do or what risk to take or what wonderful things they can do for their body..I can only share what I know in good conscience what I believe born from praying to God to help me know how to help a dying person...I did not have the knowledge to save my dad from lung cancer, now I know or to help an uncle riddled with cancer back then before I found nature's cures.

When I got cancer,I did not blindly do what doctors said to do.I researched intently..I did not do what two doctors told me to do (mastectomy) and though with a recurrence, I finally decided to do radiation along with my lumpectomy, I still took 150 supplements and used a blend of external herbs and I knew so much less then..never even heard of schulze but what I did know was enough to not have 3 of the 4 side effects I was told I would definitely have due to the need for extra radiation and the 4th was way less severe and I was repeatedly told..."wow you are so lucky..you should have third degree burns by now...(the 2nd, 3rd and 4th week (not till the 5th did I get them shocking everyone who did not know I was following this routine of taking supplements I had researched. I have never regretted not following the doctor's advice which they insisted I must..I have had no recurrence about 10 years..had I followed the two doctor's advice and insistence I have a mastectomy, I would have deeply regretted it now that I know how to heal cancer.

What I do regret is doing radiation at all as if I knew then what I know now, I would not have messed my future health up potentially with so much radiation. when my mom finally,in desperation, the last weeks of her life consented to a few things I recommended (as she never listened to me for 10 years), it had immediate positive results..my family finally saw it was not garbage with their own eyes and that it worked better than what the doctor had and she finally after 10 years consented to do it but too late as days within starting it, she had her final heart attack. A few simple herbs topped her heart attack, for instance, within minutes when 4 nitros did nothing at all..

It was too late for her, don't let it be too late for you..start now cause every day with kidney disease you get worst and every day on these routines, you get better. Start changing now and maybe you will find the answers you seek with all your heart. Listening to fear will harm you..so I hope you will listen to that which was proven to work time and time again.

Though I cannot make people do my suggestions and though they must take responsibility for their own health and choice just as I did, I can say, I personally have never seen alternative health fail and they need to ask themselves, I come here and put this time in here because I suffered and saw my mom and my friend suffer from kidney disease..neither were willing to go against the doctor's advise and both are now in the grave, health destroyed.

I offer this alternative way out of compassion. I do not have all the answers but I do believe God wants me sharing this info with people and I will, even if it irritates you or you think it is irresponsible. I feel I can do less as a caring human being who hates to see suffering humanity. I am dong the best with what I learned over 30 years of study...I am not perfect, but I feel these programs are life changing if all applied diligently and together..I do not recommend picking and choosing for the very ill person.

Will they decide to go with the man who recommended fasting for all his very ill and dying patients..those who were supposed to have been dead months ago and with one foot in the grave and who healed themselves by trusting and thinking outside the box cause they had, too..they had no hope otherwise and due to their bravery and their commitment to healing themselves and trying a new way, many of them not only survived, they showed us it can be done and it is being done...we lead the way us. the disease was not in vain for what Schulze learned form his patients and their responses is what worked and so this helped not only them, the dying and critically ill and not only their families when they recovered (and even if they didn't they died in less agony) but also it helped those who would come later.

Many of these dying people had no hope but god and they through their lives to him and begged for an answer, for a healing and those who followed the doors he opened and set before them with willingness and gratitude saw that he truly does and is making all things work for god to those who love God and are fitting into his plan.
even if they are nonbelievers, they cannot deny that if they were healed that rippled to someone in their lives who was also sick or needed faith or gratitude and knowledge that we do sometimes get answers to our prayers and desires.

Will you follow a man's advice who worked for 20 years with dying people and healed so many or will you go with the advise of a well meaning person who gets their info from a computer?

Tomorrow is what you do and believe today...go the way of dialysis and gamble on if you will be one of the lucky 8% in ten years riddled with heart attacks or try drinking some of nature's juices brimming with healing chemicals...
 

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