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Re: gallstones and being pregnant by #25 ..... Ask Agnes & Bob # 3 [Archive]

Date:   1/30/2003 7:44:29 PM ( 21 y ago)
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I went back in the archives and found a past post. This post is an answer to someone who basically asked the same question you just asked. I hope it helps you!

Subject: Re: Which is the safest gallbladder cleanse during pregnancy?
From: Agnes < Agnes > | Show All messages posted by Agnes |
Date: 18:53 Mar 17 2002 (10 months) C Recommended Message!

> I am 31 years old and 32 weeks pregnant with my fifth full-term pregnancy and have had several gallbladder attacks. I am ready to try the gallbladder cleanse.

>Which one is the best and safest during pregnancy?


One that does not include much of Epsom Salts .


>Will it start me into pre-mature labor?


If you keep the amount of Epsom Salts low, it will not.
Do not take more then 1 tbsp of Epsom Salts in the evening, or more then 1 tbsp of Epsom Salts in the morning.


> I've read that some harsh laxatives can start pre-mature labor.

That is true.

Any laxative may induce pre-mature labor.

Even, if you take a big piece of cake, it may induce pre-mature labor.

If person's health is weak, anything can induce pre-mature labor.


Diarrhea can always induce pre-mature labor, especcialy for women who do not consume unrefined ocean salt regularly.



> Is it safe ?


Nobody can tell you: "It is 100% safe."

You may feel bad while doing it, and after.


Even if it would be 100% safe, it may not be a cure.


One single flush, may be a cure, may be not.

Before you choose to do it, do something for your pain, other then flush.


To treat acute pain, take 1 tbsp of Epsom Salt deluted in on cup of juice or water, immediately.



Drink a lot of water, and eat good amount of unrefined salt.



Continue with daily program:

1. Water Cure , daily
2. 1 tea-spoon Epsom Salt with water, daily until birth
3. Olive oil, 1 -3 tbsp with lemon juice, daily
4. flaxseed oil + cottage cheese blend daily
5. walking barefoot on marbles (or stone beach), daily reflexotherpy
6. Take "lecithin", around 2400 to 4800 mg of lecithin a day. Take two in the morning and two in the evening with one or more 500 mg of "taurine" taken anytime. These help to keep the cholesterol suspended, or emulsified.
7. castor oil packs

This program is usualy enough to prevent pain.






> Also, should I worry about the toxins being released in my colon because of the cleanse. Will these toxins harm the unborn baby?





Doing enema in the evening, before claeanse, and few times in the morning, can save you from most toxins.



You will have to do what you feel is right.


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There are 3 different recipes for cleanse, each without Epsom salts.
One with "Classic Coke” uses Mg-citrate, which can cause diarrhea.


Here
//www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/classic_coke.asp (Mg-citrate)
//www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/cleansing_or_surgery.asp
//www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/Are_You_Stoned.asp



BUT.

You have to know that large quantity of olive oil and lemon juice may cause diarrhea, even without Epsom salts.

If you are trying to avoid diarrhea, then just avoiding Epsom salts is not enough, but it does make milder diarrhea.

Certainly, diarrhea caused by Epsom salts can cause far more colic and cramps.
Diarrhea cause by olive oil and lemon juice is mild.


Only you know how you feel.

I can't feel your pain, I don't know anything about your health...because of that and any other reason, I can't make any decision for you.


But, I will tell you what I would do if I would be in your shoes, and with my experience.

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Close your eyes. Then try to walk.

Can you run, or do you walk carefully, small steps?

Walk carefully.

You are in the darkness. Walk small steps, until your eyes are open.
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First, I would make sure I tolerate olive oil well!!!
This is most important, as I suppose you do tolerate freshly pressed lemon juice.



Take at least 4 tbsp or more of olive oil daily (with foods) to make sure you tolerate it well.
Make salad dressing or something...



You still didn’t tell me if olive oil makes any difference for you? Are you still in pain?
Does olive oil make any change about how you feel in the area of liver/gallbladder?


Now, suppose I tolerate olive oil very well. (It does not cause pain, or attack, or unpleasant feeling...)

Now, I would make sure I am able to swallow a lot of olive oil.
To make sure I can do that, I will use many days to test myself.


If you read this article:
//www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/Are_You_Stoned.asp
You will find simple cleanse:
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THE TREATMENT (Are You Stoned)

12 Noon Stop eating all solid food
6.30 pm Stop drinking all fluids
7.00 pm Using a measuring device, pour 1/4 cup (four tablespoonfuls) of olive oil and drink it.

Follow immediately with one or two tablespoonfuls of lemon juice.
Lie down and relax.

Repeat this every 15 minutes. Sit up, swallow it and lie down again. If possible, have someone else bring them to you. Relax, read or watch television.
Repeat the exact dosage every 15 minutes until you have swallowed the entire pint of olive oil. If there is any lemon juice left, drink it all. It is now probably 10.00 or 10.30 pm
Remember, if you have terrible nausea or vomiting sensations, use the peppermint oil in the olive oil, or chase the olive oil with a small amount of V8 or pineapple juice, until you can resume taking the plain olive oil and lemon juice.
While you are taking the olive oil and lemon juice, if it gets hard to swallow, take a little more time between doses. Try 20 minutes between doses, or 25 minutes. Try to swallow all of the oil and lemon juice. If you are too nauseated to get it all down, take as much as you possibly can.
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Now, that I am familiar with this cleanse.


The fist day, I would do small "test cleanse".
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12 Noon Stop eating all solid food
6.30 pm Stop drinking all fluids
Somewhere between 7.00 and 9.00pm Using a measuring device, pour 2 tablespoonfuls of olive oil and drink it.
Follow immediately with one or two tablespoonfuls of lemon juice.
After 15 min, I would do it again, then lie down and relax, sleep.
Altogether 2 x 2tbsp of olive oil. Amount of lemon juice can be increased.
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Tomorrow, I would look for the stones in my toilet.
If I feel OK, I would take one standard day, no cleanse, just olive oil with food.




Then, next day the same recipe, but this time, 4 tablespoonfuls of olive, and I would repeat one more times.
Altogether 2 x 4tbsp of olive oil
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Again, the next day would tell me how well I tolerate it.

This time, I would take 2 days break, and eat normally, just make sure there is also a lot of fat in my meal (some fresh oil, or fresh coconut, or fatty fish)
I don't know if you can tolerate fish.
Did you try flaxseed oil with cottage cheese ?
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Then, when I feel the time is right, I would try:

Same recipe, but this time, 4 tablespoonfuls of olive, and I would repeat 3 times.
Altogether 4 x 4tbsp of olive oil

Now, this is almost like a full cleanse!


And so on...
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I think you got idea.

Close your eyes. Then try to walk.
Can you run, or do you walk carefully, small steps?
Walk carefully.
You are in the darkness. Walk small steps, until your eyes are open.
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Now, I suppose that, in case you do feel like trying something like this, that you will first tell us you do, and you will also answer to some questions:


Does olive oil make any difference for you?

Does olive oil make any change about how you feel in the area of liver/gallbladder?

I suppose, in case you do feel like trying something like this, that you will share with us your experience, every day, as it goes.

I suppose, that there is someone in your house who can support you and be beside you when you are trying this.

I suppose, that someone can drive a car, or can call a cab, just in case.


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Few things I want to say.

In reality, I have done over 20 cleanses, but never without Epsom salts, and never "this recipe", and never pregnant.

In reality, I have eaten over 10 tbsp of flax seed oil in one single meal, with no problems.
In reality, I have eaten over 10 tbsp of olive oil in one single meal (with salad), with no problems.
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I know woman who did cleanse while pregnant, and she did it fine. She got out some stones.
She was not in pain! She only did it to make sure her liver is doing good job, while pregnant.
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Generally, you are the one who takes the full responsibility for your and for health of your child. No one else can replace you.
I can only give you support of kind: "If in your skin, I would try it."

Though this sound like you are going to do something terrible, (parachute jumping), in reality, chances for something bad happening are small, suppose you tolerate well olive oil. Actually, chances for something bad happening are far bigger if you would take some fatty dinner (Pizza), (what most other pregnant woman do at least 50 times in their pregnancy.)


Please, meditate about this, "ask your child" if it will go on with you trying this, and if both of you agree, then go on.


You have to feel 100% ready for trying this, especialy when taking 4x4 TBSP olive oil or more.


No fear, no doubt, no shame.


Ask also child's father, or your best friend, to be beside you all that time.



In case of nausea or vomiting sensations, try immediately to stand up, and walk on "kidney been" (foot massage), that may help air get out, without making you vomit.
If you think you would feel better if you vomit, then do it.


You know the best.



Remember.
No fear, no doubt.

Do what you feel is right.
And, don't forget to share every day and every important step of preparation with us. It will help you answer your questions, and it will help others reading this.


Remember, I am with you. You have my support, whatever you try to make your life better.


Hope to hear from you
Agnes






 

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