Date:   7/7/2008 2:48:32 PM ( 16 y ago)
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Hello:

"Some people increase sulfate through the skin (epsom salt baths) or by drinking Evian water."

Don't you do a considerable amount of liver flushes? I guess my question is, how do you know if the problem isn't due to the intake of epsom salts rather than the veggies? Also, if I'm not mistaken, some of those symptoms could be "fatty liver" related, which parasites can be a contributor for in causing the problem too. Didn't one of your doctors mention fatty liver or not?



What kind of test was done to specifically suggest a phenolic/salicylate problem? Was more than one test conducted to rule out false-positives? How reliable is that test in terms of accuracy?





">>>>>Salicylate sensitivity is more likely to occur in people who have moderate to severe asthma or chronic rhinosinusitis. The problem becomes more common as people age and as their asthma gets worse.<<<<<"

What if "sensitivity" was related to mold/fungus and NOT the other? -- the reactions are very similiar as well. We've learned here that chronic rhinosinusitis and some asthma can be related to molds/fungi. Additionally, certain fruits/vegs/nuts are known for carrying molds which could easily be a trigger for a reaction and/or craving the wrong foods. There are plenty of publications on this Forum about molds/fungi.

As for your granddaughter craving oranges, there could be several reasons for it... needing vit C; alkalizing the body; oranges have a mineral to neutralize citric acid; acidosis; constipation relief; help the kidneys/bladder; or maybe needing sodium. Do you know for sure that she has a salicylate issue, because it would be hard to determine why she eats oranges unless you're aware of a problem? I'd like to share this with you.... when was a teen I use to crave cucumbers.... someone told me that they are high in B vitamins; this made perfect sense to me because I needed the extra B's when under stress. When I took B vitamins I no longer craved cucumbers; I experimented on several occassions and this seemed to hold true for me. Some women crave eating dirt while pregnant which might be an indicator of lacking trace minerals (not a recommendation of mine) or something else lacking in the diet. I know of someone who was suffering from celiac disease for many years and no doctor could help them as their health was in peril; one day they started to crave lemons and ate them in abundance -- the lemons cured them (not too surprising considering they are a good germicide and alkalizing)! My point is, your granddaughter's reasons for eating oranges could be an instinctive one... or, not. Given that children are more prone to follow their instincts, I might lean toward this rather than the salicylate possibility.


Although you tested for food sensitivity, may I suggest, that the problem may or may not be entirely phenolic/salicylate related. I don't mean to throw a monkey wrench into what you've found; it would be in your best interests to make SURE this is the case rather than assuming that this is in FACT a real problem.

I realize that you're looking into a cause for the liver problems, and I believe that you are an excellent researcher considering the posts that you've made here. You maybe on track, but you need to also consider all possibilities and begin a process of systematically ruling out each one before drawing to something definitive. Being a good detective is ruling out possibilities with tests (a FEW times) using whatever tools that are available, rather than jumping at the obvious. Or, study the obvious and see if you can poke holes into it with seeing how well it stands up; if there is reasonable doubt for other possibilities than this may not be your answer. However, if there is doubt, you must look into the reasons for the occurrence rather than making another assumption. It is very easy to take a "possible fact" or small truth and build a false truth around it to look like a "fact", which in reality is an untruth. A little bit of truth mixed in with untruth -- bad science does this, in my opinion -- big funded studies (sometimes) all the way down to the little guy. Looking at things objectively is an essential key, in my opinion.

I would rather see you spend time gathering hard facts, rather than jumping off into an experiments with throwing your body off balance (in its unbalanced state) because you read something based on an assumptive "fact". If phenolics/salicylate is a real cause for symptoms, then in your research you must dig deeper to find out if P/S is REAL or someone's theory for possible symptoms. If P/S is someone's theory then you need to look into why it is sound with supporting evidence for consideration. Prudence requires separating fact from fiction.

This is my 2 cents on the subject. :) Please understand that I'm poking holes into this because I WANT you (and everyone else) to find the right answers and then find a resolution. You'll never get to the bottom of the situation if you're jumping around without a true foundation.

My best to you, always.
 

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