Re: Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN), Dquixote1217 & HappyHealthyGirl by Otimus ..... AIDS & HIV Forum
Date: 6/20/2008 1:24:52 AM ( 16 y ago)
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Thanks for writing back HHG and Dquixote. Like I said before, I really believe you guys are after the good of everyone and are quite passionate about conveying your feelings and thoughts sometimes to a fault.
Reading about all that you have gone through and seeing some of your friends and colleagues who 'followed their heart or is it their heads?' lose the battle by going alternative, I can understand the passion with which you write HHG. But I am sure you would contend that many who also followed traditional procedures and therapies also lost the battle as well. ARVs and HAARTs etc.. and even alternative/herbal remedies are usually not successful with ALL cases. So you see, some may have been saved by Alternatives though many lost the fight even as happened with traditional as well.
It is a true pity that some Quacks really go all out to deceive the ill and hopeful. For those who specifically go that route, May they rot in hell as both of you suggested. I am sure however that it is mostly a case of having something that helps the situation to an extent but jumping the gun to say its a cure, although it may as well be a herbal ARV. Yeah there are and have been several herbal ARVs/HAARTs around but our herbalists and therapists encourage people to come off their treatment sometimes a little too soon (apparently when they get well) and as has been the case with traditional medication, when they stop suddenly the virus sometimes fight back strongly, the hitherto 'cured' or improve people then have distrusts for these medications, try something else and eventually some do lose the battle. Then the drug /discovery/invention gets a bad name and is mainly pushed on the shelf.
My take on it is that people only follow the therapy when they see improvement in others and not merely on the oratory of the people behind them. So some and many of the testimonials of some past and present therapies are true except the therapists are usually complacent and they lose a good product halfwy between full discovery.
HHG, I would please want to assure you that even as traditional doctors have been making advancement in their research and development, so has the traditional arena. The smart ones amongst them are realising more and more why this or that therapy didnt work (most saw the efficacy to a point) and follow up where others left off. So through advancement HHG Alternative therapies are not as they failed your pals back in the days. Some good therapists are not resting on their or others laurels. they continue to try and make improvements and there are some good stuff around if you dig enough. Of course they are hampered by research grants but with resources at their disposal some very good alternatives are around except you have to approach them with care.
Dquixote, I like your passion and your push for Sutherlandia OPC. But surely there are many other good stuff in other places where Sutherlandia or Oleander dont grow. So please if someone is introducing another product, please give readers a chance to verify these instead of nipping their interest in the bud by saying nothing better can come from Africa than OPC. Many people have been helped to the point of cure with many other alternatives in many other parts of Africa and the world and they have never heard of OPC.
HHG advised people not to 'waste' their monies on claims from the third world. Well people around here maybe poor but God provides wonderful things to the needy. For such ones with no access to HAART or ARvs or Ozone or......, there are things that helps also people like that. The Good LORD provides for all manner of people in all kinds of situation and I have seen many therapies help many people around here. Many people in the state that HHG was have been saved by other things that were not ARVs or HAARTs. And just like HHG has so much faith in what helped her, so have these people trusted what saved them. Not always good to abandon what you have not experienced or seen happen to people.
Its surely not correct to say Sutherlandia OPC herbal cancer cure works 100% of the time. Many reasons are what makes drugs never 100% and I think a man with your expertise know that very well. To say OPC herbal cancer cure has been 100% effective because many of the people never came back doesnot mean it was all success. People in this kind of state tend to try many things. If one is not helping much (even seemingly) many move on and try something else. So much so that sometimes the benefits of one would be awarded the other. Trumpetting OPC herbal cancer cure as 100% successful is there a bit too optimistic.
I sincerely believe OPC may help a great deal but surely 100% is too ambitious. Like I said before I am trying to raise funding to help some patients in my charity with OPC and I hope to post our independent findings here when they become available.
We dont have the funds for any elaborate (double or triple blind tests - I am learning a lot here) but we would gauge it by simply giving to people who are ill and cant afford treatment and would volunteer to try these. We hope to get the funds to have blood parameters taken before and after treatment and shall inform the board if we are able to undertake the project.
Like HHG I know a few therapies that have worked very well but I would rather interested people contact me to share in this information.
Regarding LDN, I think its still good, have gone through therapists knowing 4.5mg is better dosage than 3.0mg and also learning the mixing of the original should make them rapid releasing, which may be why it failed some people in the past. HHG everyone is improving so give past failures a chance even as you have stucked through the transformation of ARvs to HAARTs.
LDN has helped a lot of people with not just HIV but also MS and many difficult diseases. Many people in the arthodox/traditional medical field with an open mind are giving it a try and its working wonders even to this day. Anyone interested can just google or youtube Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN)to read, watch and listen to the miracles its performing. Dont just accept anything HHG or Dquixote say. Together we would all make our health better.
Hope this has been helpful.
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