Date:   6/14/2008 9:00:55 PM ( 16 y ago)
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This is just my opinion, but you are both right. Who, and more specifically, what JFK was referring to was multiple layers deep, that is, several layers covered up from normal public scrutiny and therefor public awareness. Take a look at the so-called enabling act of NSA in early post-WWII era *ed*, subsequently revised in the early 50's and several times since then. Taking this act at face value, it overtly states that it animated into existence a covert intel operation (namely the CIA at the outset) while also overtly stating that it did so totally outside the jurisdiction and authority of otherwise genuine law.... like the constitution...like congressional review.... like the oval office. It would be over 20 years before the public at large first got wind that such an entity had created itself.... 20 years earlier. By conventional and customary use of the term - "authority", clearly nobody and no thing had genuine authority to commission such an operation, so the question begs: who, and more specifically what entity, had the wherewithal that was on a par with "divine right" to unilaterally appoint itself into existence as an untouchable covert agency of clandestine activity operating a headquarters ostensibly out of Langley / McClean but operating internationally? Who or what possess the kind of absolute power that they/it can utilize and boss around the likes of a USDoD, and an Oval Office, and a State Department, et. al, as their veritable rag dolls, shoe-shine boys and gophers? I don't pretend to know exactly who or what this entity was then, nor is today in whatever alternate forms it has likely morphed into over the years of being partly exposed. Among others, William "Bill" Cooper had a pretty good analysis that indicated this entity of self-beknighted gurus called itself by names such as Majesty Twelve, MJ-12, The Jason Group and the The Jason Society just to name a few. I suspect Bill was onto some good information. He may have been wrong on many counts too, but whatever he knew, that was then, Bill is dead and long gone, the trail grows cold again, the entity has had plenty of opportunity to melt back into whatever cracks it oozes out of from time to time, and it's had the luxury of plenty of time to refashion and reinvent the disguises it is using.

When faced with something that I otherwise am not sure what the heck it is I'm faced with, as a starter I try to at least take for face value whatever information might come along. As such, at face value, JFK clearly mentioned "secret societies". How many layers does one suppose might be behind THAT collective it? I realize and to some extent understand that the vast majority of people in this world, despite mounting evidence nearly every damn day of the year, have quite a difficult time allowing themselves to acknowledge that such an entity exists and have existed since time immemorial. For one thing, "secret society" is a misnomer. Lots of people in the public have become aware that such fraternal organizations exist, so they are no secret as far as that goes. "secretive societies" seems a more appropriate terms. Lots of people in the public know they exist but this tends to be where the public story ends. Few know what these societies do, few know why they exist, few know or understand what their ultimate motives are. From my own amateur attempts to learn and understand this collective entity, the first thing that jumps out off the top of my head is that they seem to exist in layers upon layers, a network of networks - sorta like the internet is set up .... a club of clubs .... a brotherhood of brotherhoods, one that is so globally ubiquitous that it makes it easy to coin the quintessential phrase of misdirection " what's wrong with secret societies? there can't be anything wrong or nefarious about them, 'cause there are so many people that belong to them'.

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