Re: $100,000 challenge by Ohfor07 ..... Politics Debate Forum
Date: 5/30/2008 12:03:57 PM ( 16 y ago)
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This information helps to put into a bit better perspective the entrenched misnomers people suffer for polygraph tests as though lie detectors. "There was deception indicated in both tests". The source of this misnomer seems to be that people automatically associate deception and lies as identically one and the same.
For all I know in this Sinclair case, Sinclair's claims are pure lies. I know so little about this case that I was not aware that the case existed until having read Rudenski's post. It was upon reading Rudenski's post that it immediately jumped out to me as relevant that this story marries the notion of man-made lie detector gear with the notion of politicians. It was upon realizing this that it occurred to me that people at large would do well to consider getting a grip on themselves when it comes to the matters of some of their embedded notions .... like, notions about what they perceive their average garden-variety politicians - even pres candidates - to be....... like notions they have been taught and trained to have for other man-made inventions such as, oh, I dunno, how about LIE DETECTORS ? HA HA.
This is so fitting. Politicians in general make such the perfect case in point. For sake of argument, Obama, McCain and Clinton seem to be a couple of politicians that for whatever reason[s] seem to be ever-present in the minds of the average person on the street in the present. Here is an impromptu study. The study is based on the premise that the capacity for deception by people presently acting/serving as a politician, is an attribute that is so common to the persona / personality of pretty much any/every/all politicians that it is effectively an in-born trait of a nature not at all unlike the way regular people are born into this world with various in-born traits .... like two arms, two legs, a head with a patch of hair on top, and the like. If these so-called "lie detector" machines are really capable of accurately measuring the presence of deceptive brain activity occurring within a specimen test subject, then the implication is that these machines would immediately begin indicating the presence of deception activity at the very instant the machine is hooked up to a politician, pretty much any politician, WITHOUT there having even first been a test question asked of them.
Okay, so the premise of this study is, a specimen politician is hooked up to said machine and immediately it's needles and gauges begin doing whatever it is they are claimed to do according the opinion of astute, highly trained deception-machine technicians, "doctors" and the like. In other words, politicians inherently manifest, pretty much 24-7-365, a base-line level of deceptive activity occurring within their noggins and this activity is generally characterized by expert machine operators as "deception"..... okay, fine, this is the lie-detector-in-operation scenario that many of us have been trained to understand thusly. The next step in this study is, a question and or series of scenarios / questions are put before the subject so as to gauge their degree of honesty in replying. The subject replies. As it turns out, for sake of argument, they reply by way of answers that are lies. The question then becomes, are these lie detector machines capable of distinguishing between degrees of deception? For instance, are they capable of clearly distinguishing between the built-in deceptive qualities that make up such specimen politicians ... drug dealers...... whores ... or the like, versus any particular deception such a specimen may bring to bear in the course of answering to scenarios put to them...... such as those put before them by a team of lie-detector technicians/doctors/experts?
Another flawed notion that people at large are famous for housing in / on their person like so much excess deception baggage, is that they are ultimately obligated to select between the lesser of two evils because, as this theory goes, it is part & parcel ... an outright "duty" that people by and large are obligated to express the constitution internally making up each one of them as individuals, by way of being good obedient little patriotic citizen of modern-day USA Inc; voter. If these man-made deception-detector machines really are worth their salt and headlines, then there is a match made in Heaven awaiting for their skilled and judicial application; political elections. Is it just me, or do other people recognize the value of these lie detector machines come election time? Would it not be nice to have a machine that everybody agrees is capable of stamping each candidate for the amount of evil they represent.....wouldn't this be the perfect way to truly gauge which candidate represents the lesser of the proverbial 2 evils?
"there oughta be a law!".......requiring that these machines are to be hooked up to each and every politician and wannabe politician-candidate come election (and re-election) time, at the local / muni level, at the county level, the state level, the federal level and yes, the global / UN level, and even the galactic level if needs be. One by one, there ought to be a law that requires such candidates to be elected (and re-elected) to a public office to first be tested, measured and graded accordingly by said "lie detector" machines so as to publicly establish, each, one by one, the baseline level of evil & deception making up their person. This way, each and every single, solitary candidate man, women or beast candidate can be measured and labeled - product packing info ;), for the precise amount of evil each and everyone of them represent. For those candidates that are ambiguous enough that it remains a matter of question whether they are man or woman or beast, these deception-detectors can help settle these matters as well. Whether it be during the time in the run up "primary" before a presidential election, or during the time just prior to the impending election "party convention", the day of the election, or (my favorite) the time that begins immediately upon the day AFTER one of them is said to have won the election, these lie-detector machines will be utilized often and repeatedly in order to ensure the public masses are continually kept up to date on the revolving-door aspect of the inherent level of deception and evil making up their elected.
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