Date:   5/27/2008 1:05:45 PM ( 16 y ago)
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Hey Telman:

good to see you in the debate forum. In fact I rarely see your posts in any other forum in CZ other than LF SUPPORT forum...

I must say you have worked hard towards your health. You have done Liver Flushing very religiously and documented your results. I openly speak against LFing( and ppl might hate me for that). But its not about winning or losing a debate but to find out the truth and root cause of a disease.

You said
<<<It is undisputed that the modern lifestyle and diet causes the biliary system to grind to a halt: gallbladder stasis. The entero hepatic cholesterol cycle starts to fail and the result is biliary stasis. Does the liver flush restart these processes? and how long does that process take? These are two key questions.

If you actually have "true" Gallstones there are few option open to you; mainly surgery or flushing.
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I disagree here. Although diet and lifestyle do play a role in determining where we stand health wise, there is another factor which is ususally ignored by many. And thats the health of our spine. If nerves are pinched to Liver/GB, inspite of healthy diet a person will suffer with health problems. So taking pressure off these nerves is very important. No amount of magic potions can fix the spine. Only right exercise can fix that. But when we think of exercise, we think of running on a treadmill or biking or lifting heavy weights. These kind of exercises are actually lot more detrimental to health and our poor spines.

That said, I also disagree that surgery and liver flushing are the only 2 options to fix gallstones. Both are harsh in their own ways.

I have a few questions for you.
1) Did they ever diagnose you with gallstones?

2) How is your health now after I guess 50+ flushes now?
3) Are you still doing these or taking a break?

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