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Re: an unexpected reaction involving cayenne/ginger tea by Ohfor07 ..... Dr. Schulze Support Forum

Date:   5/15/2008 10:09:08 PM ( 16 y ago)
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Yes, thanks, what you said does help a bit.

Are you able to explain in more depth why Ginger would spike sugar? It is not that I doubt what you say, but would like to know more about what the underlying basis to cause this kind of reaction. Is it a particular alkaloid or other ingredient[s] that causes this?

As it turns out, I also got this relative onto Cinnamon not long after I got them onto the Honey/Vinegar routine. This was a tip found in an old Schulze video and is among the reasons why I put this post in the Schulze Forum . For now, they are not doing anything fancy, like cinnamon tincture. Instead, they are just taking a small serving of regular, off-the-shelf cinnamon from the local grocery spice rack. I don't remember exactly, but it sticks in my mind that I advised they take about 1/4 teaspoon per day. Interestingly, the feedback I got indicates that their Sugar has been markedly lower ever since. If I understand the routine they've been given, they measure their Sugar level 2 or 3 times a day and chart this on a tablet for easy reference. Somewhere between then (when they first started the cinnamon) and now, the Sugar dropped low enough over a long enough period that the MD adjusted their daily insulin by reducing it from 2 doses per day to 1.

By the way, this person is not what I would consider a professional or seasoned / veteran diabetic. This is all still fairly new to them. They are near 80. It's only been within the past 2 to 3 years that orthodoxy officially deemed them "diabetic". During this time, the MDs have been changing the routine of prescribed meds on a fairly regular basis. I get the impression they are sort of throwing darts at this problem. Another interesting aspect to this is that of the 4 of us at that "tea party", one person (the recent amputee) is 90 years old, and while they say they have been told they are borderline "type 2", they have not succumbed (yet) to taking medication for this. The other 2 are near 80. In fact, these other 2 are twins. I would expect their internal makeup is quite similar. However, while only one of the 2 has been diagnosed "type 2" and subsequently medicated accordingly as previously described, the other says they've been told they are borderline "type 2" but thus far they have not been talked into taking meds for this. Then there is myself, who is just under 50, not taking any meds, and I have not been close enough to an MD the past 5 years to be given a type 2 diagnosis. So, of the 4 of us, only one had the adverse reaction, as described previously.

As far as other known variables in this adverse reaction, the brand / type of honey involved with the tea party is different than the brand & type that has been taken on a daily basis with the vinegar. Whether or not this was a factor, I dunno, but it is a variable to consider. The honey/vinegar in water routine, by the way, is something picked up from the old country doctor Jarvis.

Thanks again.

PS - on the diet "good / not good", relatively speaking, yes again, you are right. On multiple counts, their diet is not what I would consider good. For one thing, for the past 5 years it's been dictated by orthodox medicine who in that time has seen fit to advise elimination of many natural foods, especially real juices, in favor of store-brand fake juices. The diet situation has been the most difficult as it has been truly a revolving door based on the advice of the MDs. 5 years ago, before the diagnosis of "oops, sorry, you are now type 2" appeared on the radar, the MDs were taking a different approach. First they advised the entire "you must now chase calories, count calories, every day" routine. Then they advised the elimination of caffeine. Then about 1 to 2 years later, they advised "forget what we previously told you about chasing calories, you must now chase carbs, count carbs, restrict carbs, every day". At least this part makes a bit of sense since most carbs digest and break down into sugars, but also remember, at this point, the sugar/diabetes diagnosis, was still not on the map. To make matters worse, though, the MDs then advised the use of known toxins - such as Sweet & lo, and eventually Splenda, as sugar substitutes. So, to repeat, yes, on multiple counts, the diet is not good.


 

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