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Re: The revolution will not be pasteurized: Inside the raw-milk underground by grzbear ..... Milk Debate Forum

Date:   5/1/2008 11:26:34 PM ( 16 y ago)
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I have read and re-read some of Bill Sardi's stuff again lately and have become increasingly disappointed with his wittings.

These .pdfs on dairy are an excellent example of laying out a potential threat and then leaving big gapping holes and questions in the material.

A calcium paper I read that he did left me the exact same way... warning of calcium OD and its potential for harm, without ever mentioning the need for magnesium along with it in the diet, WHEN he has also written about magnesium deficiencies and the importance of balancing intake with calcium and the role of both as well... this is gross negligence on his part, spreading misinformation when he appears to know better.

This without mentioning vitamin D either or K.

Perhaps he sees the parts relatively well (I doubt this too now) without associating them to the whole. Perhaps he writes and forgets what he has written about... perhaps he wants to impart the sensationalistic bent for exposure and emotional impact purposes... who knows?

In the calcium bit he also pointed a finger at dairy cultures, citing non-affected, "non-dairy cultures", such as Japan, failing to understand that the Japanese likely get more assimilable calcium in their daily diets than those that consume dairy... look into the calcium content of fish stocks/broths, the green vegetable and seaweed consumption among others in non-dairy cultures and one will find a high calcium consumption... perhaps higher assimilable calcium than in dairy cultures. Not to mention that the non-dairy culture magnesium to calcium ratios are MUCH better... like I said, I am extremely disappointed with his writings.

Sardi should know better... or, like I said, he does not put the pieces together.

All eating, and drinking comes with risks and rewards... always has, always will... one man's food is another man's poison.

This is evidenced clearly by those who tout and are able to eat 100% raw foods with nary an issue, and others, sometimes those within the same family, ending up in a hospital due to bacterial infections of one sort or another, or malnourishment issues. E. Coli issues with leafy greens and other things have come to the fore... it is the old, young, and weak, along with those that have no ability to resist these forms of bacteria any more due to our anti-bacterial, zap, CS, h2o2, iodine, everything mindset that has created these mutant adaptations in a hostile environment.

Life will find a way... chew on that for a while as you are contending with your latest foreign "threat". Get rid of one, another opportunistic "bug" will move in an take its place... terrain balancing is the best protection period... and terrain can be compromised at anytime as it requires focused, balanced, conscious eating and drinking (food and drink, even "raw" or "purified\distilled" is no where near what it used to be)... your food may be different than mine to accomplish that.

We are meant to live with the "germs" both good and bad.

This is all part of the adaptation/evolutionary mechanism; survival of the fittest.

As MH says, those who adapt, have nothing to worry about... those who live, or attempt to live, forcing a sterile environment, fighting the natural course of bacterial load (which will always be with, and be a VITAL part of us, as it is a beneficial symbiotic relationship as well) including the food they eat will most likely at some point fall...

One cannot keep killing a beneficial part of themselves (bacteria\viri) and not kill a part of themselves... or destroy an unknown beneficial function of the very bugs they are killing.

Fear of life (bacteria) will be some folks undoing; It already has been.

That is why things like Colloidal Silver , zappers, clay, etc. must be used for specific reasons, in specific circumstances only; emergency medicine... becoming dependent on something like CS, zappers, clay, and Iodine once sufficiency is reached, expecting to survive in its absence after adaptation to the sterile environment is foolhardy IMHO.

Humans have never, EVER, lived in a sterile environment, never will. It is foolish to think we should try to "kill" everything we think we have or have been exposed to, without ending up at some point with a negative consequence or three.

Sure we may get ill from time to time from a food, or airborne pathogen, but on the flip side, once recovered, our systems have now built a stronger resistance or outright immunity to the threat... and our children, born to those with these built in resistances and immunities will be better able to resit them and other pathogenic threats with each subsequent generation...

I have been sick twice in the last year after not having dealt with an illness for almost 3 years; I thought my immune system was as strong as it could be; that I could not get sick... I was wrong. I had quit taking any h2o2, clay, cs, iodine, etc. on a daily basis; on purpose to let nature take its course.

Rather than use zappers, clay, CS, etc. to fight it off, I chose to let the illness run its course both times... I was well, in both cases, easily in a fourth of the time as others who went to doctors, taking drugs and many OTCs. My immune response to the "bug" was MUCH stronger than theirs. Not only that, but I came out on the other side of the illness, physically stronger each time, whereas they were physically weaker. In either case, I am sure my response to a similar pathogen in the future will be strong resistance or a total immunity now.

There is something to be said for letting these things run their course if the illness is NOT life threatening and forcing a physical immunological adaptation...

BTW - I for the most part fluid fasted through these things only after watching animals go through illnesses... fluid is about all they take in while sick; little to no food.

The experiment continues...

Risky? Sure, like eating... however, so is sterile living, in a sterile environment and then conceiving children with few, or no built in immunity to pathogens which are all around us... even if they are breast fed by the sterile parent... the breast milk now has little to no immunological protection ability for the child... the parent having been vaccinated and sterilized, living in the sterile environment all their lives.

One cannot live tied to a zapper, one cannot guarantee, lifelong supplies of CS, iodine, and readily available clay.

What happens when the sterile individual is exposed to the super bugs without their fancy tools to "kill" them? Will the fear then kill them, or the pathogen due to the absence of an adaptive immune response to the threat?

Perhaps my line of thinking and direction is different than most. I have used clay, zappers, Colloidal Silver , and iodine, among other things... and still, I have come to this conclusion.

It just makes solid sense to me. After all of my study and practice, I think I am slowly becoming a minimalist...

grz-


 

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