Date:   4/29/2008 3:10:23 PM ( 17 y ago)
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I am NOT repeat NOT Bruce or anyone else's posse. I didnt even know who Bruce is/was until a few days ago and only by reading about him here!!

here is my reply to Jim Himble as posted elsewhere:

In answer to Jim Humble:
As for taking me to task about what Jim did/did not say I quote my own post:
“following statements are just a few that are found on the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement site and/or purported by others to “explain” how and why Miracle-Mineral-Supplement works” May I POINT to the words: OR PURPORTED BY OTHERS to explain...Mr Humble apparently did not carefully read and has a sex bias—Jim, I am a FEMALE scientist!

1. under which circumstance Miracle-Mineral-Supplement works—why all the crazy hoopla about not using certain juices and maintaining certain Ph levels if it works so well at various Ph levels??
Oxygen vs oxiDIZING—the issues come from the supporters who are convinced of what even Mr Humble now says isn’t happening.

2. acid/alkaline—again supporters who sell/push the MMS are saying this—thank you Jim for agreeing this is not valid!!

3. Salts forming—what DOSE of how much MMS will form what amount of salt and leaving HOW MUCH active CLO2 behind?? And HOW do we know this given the gastric acid (in vivo) vs Jim’s lab bench ( in vitro).and what does that salt DO exactly??

4.Gastric absorption MY personal favorite--LISTEN UP
QUOTE
The stomach absorbs very few substances, although small amounts of certain lipid-soluble compounds can be taken up, including aspirin, other non-steroidal anti-infammatory drugs, and ethanol. Notably, these substances are also well-recognized causes of gastric irritation and their use (especially overuse) is commonly associated with development of gastritis and gastric ulcers.

http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/stomach/absorb.html


since when is CLO2 lipid soluble??? oh, its not

Reitemeier et all proved that human gastric mucosa affords an almost COMPLETE barrier to absorption; particularly a COMPLETE barrier to sodium, its salts and similar compounds. He used radioactive tracers.the standard proof has still no detractors.

Oops guess your Science is still off Jim.

And from an ex colleague of Mr Humble:QUOTE
Generally very little of any of the food we eat will be absorbed through the gastric mucosa, except things like alcohol which can in part make its way through. Fats, oils proteins and carbohydrates will be almost totally be absorbed in the small intestine after further emulsification and digestion upon entering the duodenum.

Peter Faletra Ph.D.
Assistant Director
Science Education
Office of Science
Department of Energy

so the only thing to disprove these respected scientists of human physiology would be before and after blood levels after ingesting CLO2--do we have those?????and even then how do we know from when/where the absorption is occurring??the reason Jim insists on Gastric absorption I think is due to his inability to explain what if anything happens intestinally--so if it cant get thru the stomach lining, his whole show is over.

5.and 7 PH—again many supporters are insistent upon this—thanks again Jim for telling them theyre wrong!!

6. CLO2 gases—how much produced—isnt that dependent upon what the solute is and how long it sits??? Isn’t that awfully variable to state unequivocably how much is off gassed?? And also many users are using MORE than your so called max of 15 drops and using different acids as catalysts too--vinegar/acetic vs citric
BTW many report problems from the citric acid too see this

//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1078025


8. Jim totally avoids discussion of what is/is not a “herx” which is paramount to MANY users claiming effect. Pot ~RING~ kettle calling—Now who is talking to just talk Jim???

9. Malaria—all I read is “read my book read my book” I do not see names and I do not see numbers treated/cured and before and after documents. Saying the Govt has been replaced is an old magician’s trick and a newer internet marketing trick.

Many of Dr Hesselink’s article carry this disclaimer QUOTE
• The purpose of this article is to propose research.
• Nothing in this article is intended as medical advice.
• No claims, promises nor guarantees are made
Ummm that is the supposed researcher I am to take the word of??? Hesselink has been described by Humble supporters as an “expert in infectious disease” yet his Illinois license states “general practice”. And he has no hospital privileges per the Illinois Medical Bd.- He has been scrutinized for hydrogen peroxide therapy with no formal charges made. This I found in 5 minutes...maybe there's even more?

10- resistance—comparing apples and oranges—SURFACE disinfection assumes a complete or near complete eradication due to ability for a very efficient exposure of substance to bacteria; and by a possibly different mechanism than in vivo—hence cannot make comparisons.Cant compare open air surface disinfection and water disinfection with inside body stuff--would you swallow LYSOL?????


I do not know anything re Jim's humanitarianism and will therefore not comment BUT I do know that the Kinnaman Foundation is quite suspect and many sites selling MMS claim 97% of profits goes to them--I also have a big problem with the myriad of sellers of the stuff making money too--

instead of spending 20-28 dollars on a bottle of poison why not send it to buy SEVERAL treated nets for Africans..theyre a PROVEN and effective preventative for Malaria--prevention is always better than trying to treat after infection anyway

oohhh this woman wants people to suffer--another internet marketing ploy/smokescreen--well played Jim, well played BUT my years as patient advocate speaks volumes otherwise and so does my financial and time supporting DWOB and the WHO etc!!

"Ms Scientist, patient advocate and no aplogies"
 

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