Date:   3/20/2008 6:55:40 PM ( 16 y ago)
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Interesting.

Here's the quote you claimed came from Herbert Ley (from your earlier post):

""The FDA 'protects' the big drug companies and are subsequently rewarded, and using the government's police powers they attack those who threaten the big drug companies. People think that the FDA is protecting them.

It isn't.

What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it is doing are as different as night and day."

Now you claim _this_ is the quote:

""The thing that bugs me is that people think the FDA is protecting them. It isn't. What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it's doing are as different as night and day.”

Quite a bit different, isn't it? No mention of "big drug companies" and "government's police powers". You could read the revised quote a number of ways - it could, for example be referring to the FDA not having enough power to crack down on phonies and quacks (a real problem facing us in current times). Of course, even with this quote all we have is a statement on Wikipedia that he supposedly said it nearly 40 years ago in an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle. I see no link to any Chronicle story or independent confirmation of the quote (one thing you need to learn is that Wikipedia is trustworthy only if its statements can be independently confirmed. Its "edits" are frequently performed by people with axes to grind - in this case, it's impossible to tell if the person who inserted the alleged quote is the same type of altie who's spread it all over the Internet, similarly without proper attribution).

Bottom line - there are multiple versions of the quote, alleging it came from various different sources at different times, and no way to know if it's accurate or what the context was. Very convenient for those pushing quack cures and useless supplements, as a way of attacking the FDA which they fear will crack down on their brand of consumer exploitation.

And that's really what you fear and hate about the FDA the most, isn't it? Limited as its enforcement powers are, you're worried that they're an impediment to your exploitation of the sick.

DQ: "Properly prepared Oleander extract, whether it be home remedy version, the patented Anvirzel, or the dietary supplement form which has been over 90% successful against cancer and 100% successful in reversing HIV, are all virtually identical."

If this were true the world would be beating a path to your door and you'd be a wealthy Nobel Prize winner, instead of a small-time supplement dealer trying to delude desperate people on an Internet forum.

No thanks, I'll put my trust in Memorial Sloan-Kettering. They actually help people - and have the documentation to prove it.

None of this has much to do with vaccines - except that you're so intent on inserting your phobias, Conspiracy theories, personal attacks and ignorance into what are supposed to be debates about vaccine safety and efficacy, you invite refutations on a personal basis.

Tell you what - if you can in future avoid baseless personal attacks on those who disagree with you, I'll in turn refrain from mentioning your history of promoting unproven, dangerous and useless remedies.


 

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