Date:   3/20/2008 4:12:56 PM ( 16 y ago)
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Ah, nameless little troll - you continue to wade in water way, way over your empty head.

You are a total waste of my time to debate further but I will correct you one final time here and then settle back to concentrating on productive work I have to do (but not to worry, I will be sure to stop in frequently to squash your worthless mainstream hype).

Ozelle Pharmaceuticals was formed by a group of investors and Dr Ozel's son.  The FDA's warning letter has been addressed for what it was - suppression of the truth by use of the billion dollar FDA trial process not having been completed to be able to make any medical claims.  It was not the what Ozelle had to say was untrue - only that they had not antied up the billion it takes to join the Big Pharm club that rules the FDA.  After all, piglet, we have seen how effective the FDA trial process really is haven't we, Mr. Vioxx man? Aspartame anyone?

Ozelle pharmaceuticals is no longer the company that makes Anvirzel.

You ask a much better question than you realized.  When it comes to me or Memorial Sloan Kettering on the subject of non-traditional and natural treatments you should absolutely believe me first - MSK is known as the most evil mainstream apologist hospital organization on the planet, one that will go to any lengths to suppress competition to the hundreds of millions of dollars they make off their needlessly dying cancer victims.  These are the same people that hid their own test results on laetrile and fire Ralph Moss when he outted them - and they are not worth the saliva it would take to spit on them.  Their own head of oncology has gone on record as saying that he has never seen or heard of a single case of cancer curd by non-traditional means.  Anyone who will tell a lie that huge should rot in hell for eternity.

All of the adverse reactions you see reported for Anvirzel are absolutely correct - however, they are usually relatively mild when present at all, and there has never been a life-threatening reaction nor a death.  Something NO other cancer drug and most FDA approved drugs can say, by the way.

The warnings for raw oleander are also absolutely correct.  In regards to oleander extract they apply only to the handling of the raw plant.  Properly prepared oleander extract, whether it be home remedy version, the patented Anvirzel, or the dietary supplement form which has been over 90% successful against cancer and 100% successful in reversing HIV, are all virtually identical.

How do you explain that success, troll man?  How do you explain the success of the many members of my group, or all the thank you messages I have from people who are alive today after mainstream medicine failed them?

For your edification, Dr. Ley's famous quotation comes from the January 2, 1970 edition of the San Francisco Chronicle.  From one of your own favorite sources here is the Wikipedia bio of the last FDA commissioner who actually stood up to the special interests of Big Pharma:

Herbert L. Ley Jr., M.D. (September 7, 1923—July 22, 2001) was an American physician and government official.

He attended Harvard College from 1941-1943, and returned there after World War II, where he received his M.D. degree, cum laude, in 1946. In 1951, he earned an Master of Public Health degree from the Harvard School of Public Health. From 1951 until 1958, he worked with the Army Medical Service Graduate School in rickettsial disease research, the Office of the Surgeon General, and as an epidemiologist in Korea and Vietnam.

In 1958, he accepted a position as Professor of Bacteriology and Chairman of the Department of Bacteriology, Hygiene, and Preventive Medicine at George Washington University. In 1963, he was appointed Associate Professor of Epidemiology and Microbiology at the Harvard School of Public Health, and became chairman of the Department in 1964. In September 1966, Ley took a leave of absence from his position to become Medical Director at the Food and Drug Administration

On October 21, 1969, Abbott Laboratories reported that the artificial sweetener cyclamate (in a saccharin-cyclamate mixture) had caused liver tumors in rats. Cyclamates were removed from the list of Generally recognized as safe (GRAS) ingredients at Dr. Ley's direction on October 30, 1969.

Frustrated with the red tape and conflicts with pharmacutical companies, Ley resigned his position at FDA on December 11, 1969.

In the San Francisco Chronicle of January 2, 1970 he is quoted as saying "The thing that bugs me is that people think the FDA is protecting them. It isn't. What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it's doing are as different as night and day.”

His activism earned him a spot on the master list of Nixon political opponents.

You are sooooo over your head here!

Once again, you hem and haw and quote mainstream BS which this forum has learned long ago to reject and you avoid the issues placed before you.  Since you obviously are going to continue in this same vein (I bet that word makes your little vaxxer snout drool, doesn't it?), I will repeat yet again, and then leave you to wallow in the mud you sling:

Once again, DB, the task is quite simple:  find me one person who took my advice or who took oleander and was harmed in any way.  Just one.  You can't do it and so just like your junior troll in training, resort to slurs and lies and cut and paste mainstream justifications.

Once again, DB, you have an insurmountable problem with this crowd who have determined to educate instead of medicate - what you offer is the same tired old profit driven dung from the same folks who have a history of feeding us heaping bowls of it, selling us on the benefits while giving us death in the form of Vioxx, Bextra, Alleve, FenFen, and Tobacco.  You represent the same folks who are still maintaining that Gardasil, Fosamax, Aspartame, and all your other precious vaccines and medicines are safe and that nature itself is unsafe and quackery.

DQ

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