Date:   2/13/2008 2:21:30 PM ( 16 y ago)
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"You should find no comparison between war and the crucifixion of Jesus"

War = Hate Hate nailed our Savior to the cross and our Heavenly Father allowed the hatred to serve a greater cause. Christ set the example of greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

Now your comment is:

"If your goal is simply that "OTHERS" may have life and dwell in peace, happiness, and freedom (instead of ALL, the whole world) and disregards what is just and true, then you will be indifferent that so many innocent people die in wars (instead of having "rivers of living water", tears of sorrow, John 7:38)"

I don't agree with you equating "rivers of living water" and "tears of sorrow" in that scripture other than in repentance of our sins.

John 15:9"As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. 10If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love. 11I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command. 15I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 17This is my command: Love each other.

{The World Hates the Disciples}

18"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.'[b] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin. 23He who hates me hates my Father as well. 24If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. But now they have seen these miracles, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. 25But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: 'They hated me without reason.'

26"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me. 27And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning.

My question to you: What do you consider to be "the world"?



 

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