Date:   1/11/2008 12:21:26 AM ( 16 y ago)
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As I said, I am sure I have encountered you before and your posts and behavior here confirms it, including all the negative votes you cast.  Why don't you give some examples of the "real lulus" I have posted in other forums so we can find out who you really are.

I have posted information about the successes of oleander and my protocol numerous times here in CZ, including recent posts here in this forum, should you bother to do your research.  I have also given you information about where to find case histories, testimonials and numerous people who will confirm what I have posted.

I responded to the title of the opening post, which was seeking advice, and I felt compelled to add my two cents because I feel very strongly, based on actual experience and research, that using only Essaic to combat cancer, or even essaic, pau de arco and juicing, while all good, are the equivalent of loading your weapon with three subsonic rounds when it would be better to fully load your weapon and also add some hi-performance combat rounds.

The reason I do not debate the merits of Essaic or dispute instances of it's successes is because I have no quarrel with Essaic and no doubts that it has been used successfully - I have tried to make that clear here, and thus this entire argument is a foolish waste of time.  Your accusations are utter nonsense, when it is plain to see that I am merely trying to offer advice to help someone have the very best chances of beating cancer.  That is what we want people who seek advice here to do isn't it- give them the best advice we know and the best chance of success.  Or do some of us just want to argue and cast stones?

As I said earlier, I really do not have the time nor inclination to re-post what has already been posted here repeatedly, but congratulations, you goaded me and pushed enough buttons so that I will give some quick figures here if that is what it takes to make you stop abusing this forum:

Dr. H Z Ozell has used oleander for over 40 years with an overall success rate against a wide spectrum of cancers, most of which were in advanced stages after mainstream chemo and radiation had failed, and had an overall success rate above 70%.

Salud Integral in Honduras has had similar, if not better, success rates with the patented oleander drug Anvirzel (which the homemade remedy and Sutherlandia supplement are based on), and their website is replete with stats, studies and case histories.  The same is true for the websites of Ozelle Pharmaceuticals and the personal website of Dr. Ozel.

In European trials in 1986-87, an aqueous solution of nerium oleander was found to have six times the immune stimulating activity of the most powerful patented immune stimulants known to man.

Noted South African researcher Marc Swanepoel has used an extract based on oleander for over three years now and has had a success rate of over 90% - and the few who did not survive and become cancer free were either in their very final days when they began to take the oleander supplement or else succumbed to major organ failure due to prior chemo damage.

Of the over 300 plus members of my yahoo group, not one single member who has used oleander (and most have also used the rest of my suggested protocol) has failed to survive - and that includes my own 85 year old uncle whom mainstream medicine failed to help.

As noted earlier - if you want more information, come join the group and talk to the members and follow the links and look at the posted files in the group and stop making unfounded accusations and innuendos here.

"a head jumping control freak - and you know it and you've been called on it before.  I've experienced it, and others have too."

I guess that explains my "large following", huh? (your words, not mine)  To me, it definitely indicates that we have indeed crossed paths before and you apparently have an ax to grind.  Have I offended you in the past?  Sometimes I do get carried away - especially when I am debating someone I know for an absolute fact is wrong and wrongheaded to boot.  Allowing myself to get dragged into these senseless prolonged arguments is a flaw I need to work on, as this thread has once again demonstrated.

Actually, I think maybe you have territorial and other issues and perhaps feel threatened when anyone fails to agree with you.  Whatever the problem may be, this forum is supposed to be about helping, not debating.  Thanks to you, this thread has long since passed the point of being about helping or even about making any sense and you have long since passed the boundaries of exercising good decorum.

I will bid you good night and let you have the last word you seem determined to have.

DQ

 

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