Date:   12/22/2007 2:26:14 PM ( 17 y ago)
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Dr Sutter,
First off, Merry Christmas to you, and all- and although I haven't been doing much posting lately, I've still been here doing alot of reading! My twin daughters will be here for the first time in 3 years for Christmas, and I have things I should be doing even as I'm typing this...but I HAVE to tell you my liver flush/parasite story!

The last 2 liver flushes I've done, have been 1 month apart instead of 2 weeks, as I had been doing. My liver hasn't been feeling the "full water balloon" feeling- and KNOCK ON WOOD- the last liver flush I did a month ago, the 2nd day into the apple cider/phos drops, I did a coffee enema, and got a motherlode of the red/pink/tan liver fluke chunks. I got a few more out in the liver flush- and some green stones, but not a whole bunch.

WELL...a month later...I did the 3 days prep with the apple cider/phos drops, and took the flush ingredients a week ago Friday night. I was amazed at the size of the green stones that were coming out! By the way, I did add epsom salts to the flush too. I got a pile of stones, and they weren't pea sized..they were 1/2 inch to one that was 1 inch!
My liver felt like it just needed to keep dumping these things- so the next day I did more apple juice/phos drops, and did another flush Sunday night---MORE stones, and quite a few of them, and smaller, but still not small!

Tuesday, I felt stones move forward. Now it's not the congested feeling, it's more the feeling of having "splinters" in there that you know you need to get out- and there definetly is a feeling of relief, very similar to getting a sliver out. Tues/Wed,feeling more stones in there, and feeling like the liver wanted them out- I did the apple cider/phos drops, and did one more flush Wed night- a bunch more stones!

In all of this, several times a day I was drinking fresh squeezed citrus juice- 2 limes/1 orange, with 1 TB of molasses, 2 TB of sesame oil (was out of olive oil), and 1/4 tsp of cayenne- (similar to what Plzchuckle calls the gentle Lemonade flush). I think it helped to keep things moving out too...but it just felt more like my liver was ready to give all this fat stuff up and needed to keep working to flush it out.

In reading your posts, you mentioned that eggs can hide behind the stones. This is my theory on why I flushed so many stones this time. I AM starting to get the worms killed- haven't seen signs of flukes for a month. But, I know I still have had ascarids/round worms. Yes, I'm still on dewormer, yes, I'm going to continue because I know I'm still killing them!
My theory is this: because I have been killing the parasites (which I've been full of!)...I do think the liver's way of protecting itself from the parasites actually eating on it--along with the bacterias/ammonia etc the parasites put out in the blood stream that the liver also has to filter out...I am thinking the liver also hangs onto the fat for protection!

The rest of my "theory" is that the reason the liver wanted to dump all of these stones, is maybe because of getting down to where I'm getting them killed, it feels like it can "relax" and "let go of" the fat it's been protecting itself with?

BUT...here's the other thing too, because I know you say that as long as there are parasites, there are going to be green stones. Yesterday, remembering what you said about parasites and eggs being behind the stones...I did the megadose of Barefoot like he says Hulda Clark says to do for tough worms..4 TB, rest an hour, 4 more TB..plus I took the Professional strength oregano/sage/cumin capsule the Dr. gave me- and ParaStat.

I could feel within a couple hours of taking the dewormers, that I was killing something and it was definetly in my liver. I know you know what it feels like when things are being killed- kind of like those "spots" get puffed up, and tight feeling. I felt it in both sides of my liver, the right side and the left side.

The other thing I did, was I got brave and decided to give the Castor oil that was sitting by my bed for castor oil packs a swig last night too. It wasn't as bad as I had expected.

This morning, feeling a difference in my liver- I did a coffee enema- which I've been doing through the liver flushing too- and it really did get more stones out each time too, I am a believer in them helping to clean out the liver. In the coffee enema Doc...I got what had to have been at one time, a 12 inch, white ascarid! The intact piece was 8 inches, and there were several pieces of it. I am positive from where I could feel that I was killing them yesterday, that it came from my liver. And I'm convinced that it was exposed because of all the liver stones being flushed out, and it couldn't hide!

I just wanted you to know that I'm still at it- and I agree with you with what you had posted several days ago about being on the dewormer for 3 months-- AND that this should just be a once in a lifetime thing! My Dr. says the same thing you do too- and from my own experience, I have to agree. People are just doing 30 days of deworming because that's what the herbalists say to do, but they aren't getting to the tough, core worms!

The other thing that has been going that has scared people about deworming, is there has been a poster that started several months ago, and again started posting a few weeks ago- pointing the finger at Humaworm for being the cause of his ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease. That it came on because of taking Humaworm. Not only did that cause concern, but then it created fear also that the worms can be driven deeper internally, or that they can scatter. From what I've been finding out with my own deworming, I would think that it would be more of a hazard to NOT continue after the worms. And, from my understanding, the herbals are systemic and goes through all the organs, including the brain. From what I've read, the scattering comes from the chemical the medical Dr's give for one week for parasites? not from the herbals.

There's also alot of fear of the worms (bugs as you call them) becoming resistant to the dewormers, and that you HAVE to stop after 30 days. That doesn't make sense to me. Why would you want to stop if you know you are killing them, and you know you still have them- to me THAT seems like it would give the worms the incentive to go deeper to hide---and survive for 90 days, laying more eggs---then go hide for the 30 days on again. The biggest majority of the worms I've killed was in the 2nd, and going towards the 3rd month. It's 3 1/2 months now, and with this ascarid this morning, I know I'm not done- but I am feeling like I'm getting them cleaned out. I haven't been able to get a zapper yet...but am still working on that too.

Just wanted to thank you for the advice you give Doc. I wanted you to know what a LARGE part you have played in my getting through this- and the encouragement of knowing there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I DON'T want to do this again---I'm keeping on keeping on to only have to do this once in my lifetime, and believing you that it is true because of your own experiences! Thanks again Doc- I appreciate you!

By the way---Merry Christmas all! I'm looking forward to my New Year ahead being alot more healthy than I was last year! I still have alot to learn!

 

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