Date:   11/4/2007 1:35:36 AM ( 17 y ago)
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I think that people exhibit sickness in different ways... but with myself I did over 150 ozone treatments and began to see residual effects, not a feel better then revert. I always felt really sick within 2 days of doing ozone, which was a release of toxins dosing w/ high amounts of chlorella a chelator, copius antioxidants especially vitamin c helped in the removal.

One key piece of research I ran across is the th2 response (google esther sternberg md at the NIH) in which one primary pathogen evokes such strong immune reaction that the immune system becomes dysregulated so that the th1 or cellular immune response becomes defective. typically a strong th2 immune response is provoked by either a parasitic invasion both helminth and/or protozoan or a bacterial invasion. in my case I developed a Cushing's type of response following a bout with an infective agent. I have ruled out numerous pathogens looking specifically at the parsite side, why I am at this board.

My abdomen is swollen like a pregnant mom (but my little baby is probably a parasite LOL) and my immune system is nutzoid! I constantly strain w/ oppurtunistic infections esc. the nasty virals such as cytomegelo, possibly hhv6 and others. I am fortunate to have a device that is able to dx and treat these at least to keep me functioning. I carry w/ me a basket of supplements to keep me somewhat bouyant. I have developed sophisticated protocols in dosing of these products.

But I do argue w/ myself about some of the toxin theory vs. pathogen theory of illness. However I have noticed that w/ immune system firing, the detox channels become defective, hence my dependency on antioxidants etc. perhaps killing the primary infective agent is key before detoxing???? however there is no question that some pathogens are tied to toxic environments (virals/yeast -yeast is a lover of mercury)

There are some good doctors/ researchers worth looking at. I like patricia kane phd, and dietrich klingheardt (check spelling I know mercola.com has dr. klingheardts protocol on it. ) Dr. K's website has some very valuable info concerning reduction of toxins specifically mercury. Dr. Braun down in Texas does some phone consults I hear she is very good. Dr. majid ali has some really good material worth reading.... Dr. leo galland is very good.

Have you done any amino acid testing, I would suspect deficient cysteine, taurine and methionine channels which is quite common for immune problem people. These aminos are closely associated, they are quite specific towards both the immune and detox side.. they are also thiol groups of aminos which are violently attacked under the prescensce (sic) of mercury. methylcobalamin and methylfolate or folicin are key componments in their makeup and utilization, dr. richard deth has done several studies concerning low methylation and autism reactions,,,, autism shares many attributes w/ CFS, fibromyalgia and other immune defective diseases...

these methyl pathways are key to glutathione production... research shows that gluathione is a key key player in immunity and detox..... however the caveat is that oral administration of GSH is suspect.... I used a lipo based product that gave some powerful results.... IV is best, IM's are purported to work

although somewhat controversial, a hair analysis (i like traceelements.com) can pinpoint some problematic ratios of minerals. disruptions in cal/mg zn/cu etc. can have profound effects on the body.... selenium is another key mineral in the glutathione pathways.
 

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