The original post has been thrown across onto different forums and I probably missed some replies (I think I missed something on another forum). I am not sure I understand your reply, babsbiltmore. That "turning the other cheek" play is a little worn out. No one would ever have to do that unless they are being ATTACKED in the first place (a very unchristian thing for someone to do). People only want others to turn the other cheek so that they can get away with being unchristian, so everytime I hear someone mention "turn the other cheek", I know they're up to no good (that's their DEFENSIVENESS showing).