Finally. a person of reason, these flushers attacking me are starting to remind me of religious extremists. I think so much stuff here is good and very helpful, lots of contradictions and confusion tho, but nonethless its a good place to get ideas and viewpoints. I was all for the Liver Flush thing when i first saw it then after literally days of pouring over these forums and others i couldnt deny my doubts and i saw on previous pages and posts that my questions were raised by a few others and they never got actual factual ansers either just the same run around and double talk and links to the same article with the same pics that could have easily been a stone manually put into that duct....now show me a liver cut in half and full of embedded compacted stones and ill be a believer in 2 seconds flat!...but when there is no proof or lab anylises , and also other natural docs and holistic healers who dont even believe it then im left to doubt,,,with all the other stuff like metals and sweeteners and flouride there are multiple studies and analysis on both sides to from an opinion....yet for these stones there is very little of anything factual to support that they form in everyones liver long b4 they ever flush