Julia, Thanks so much very answering my question and for the support. The Dr's and other people say I should have the surgery that I will feel so much better. But after reading lots of infromation on this site and others. I believe surgery isn't always the answer. I have back pains and side pains now. When I get done eating anything I just cough real hard for a while then it is gone.But the pain is still with me. When the dr. said I needed surgery that little voice said no. The gb is there for a reason. I will do my first flush tomarrow and will let you know how it went.THanks for your help. Porkie Pig