Re: And what the Bible says about itself...

It proves to me that all revelation comes from the same God.

And we know there are problems with scribes tampering with earlier scripture.

And some of this article is not fully translated when dealing with the arabic verses, but it is more detailed than others I have seen.

For example where it states ( not verbatim ) The Jews tell the Christians they have nothing to stand on, and the Christians tell the Jews they have nothing to stand on, while they read the book. Its is supposed to say- (I am paraphrasing) while they read from the SAME BOOK. So little details are left out here.

Also its even in the bible that the scribes were erasing parts of the books, among other things: This is a small list-


AUTHENTICITY OF THE BIBLE


BIBLE'S TESTIMONY TOWARD THE SCRIBES
------------------------------------
[Jer. 8:8]
How can you say we are wise and the law of the Lord is with us. Behold,
THE FALSE PEN OF THE SCRIBES TURNED IT INTO A LIE.
[Jer. 6:10]
Behold, the word of the Lord is unto them a reproach, they have no delight
in it.. From the least of them even unto the greatest of them, every one is
given to covetousness, and FROM THE PROPHET EVENT UNTO THE PRIEST, EVERY ONE
DEALS FALSELY.

[Jer 14:14]
The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not neither have I
commanded them, neither spoke unto them.
[Jer. 23:31]
They use their tongues and say, "HE SAYS". (How similar is that to the
verses of the Quran wherein Allah charged the scribes with the same
accusation we read "There is among them a section who distort the book
with their tongues; in order that you would think it is a part of the book
[of revelation] but it is not a part of the book, and they say that is from
Allah, but it is not from Allah, it is they who tell a lie and well they
know it. (Quran 3:78)"
[Jer. 23:36]
And the burden of the Lord shall you mention no more.. For you have perverted
the words of the living God.

BOTH TESTAMENTS ARE TEMPORAL
----------------------------
[1 Corin. 13:9]
For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT
IS COME, THEN THAT WHICH IN PART SHALL BE DONE AWAY. (Paul is giving a
prophesy about the coming of the perfect one which cancel his prophesy and
knowledge in another word: It makes both the Old and New testament already
old, and no more valid, we should recall that Paul wrote his letters long
time after Jesus's ascension therefore he was not speaking about the Holy
Spirit who was supposed to come directly after the ascension of Jesus.
Any way: Christians must look for [the perfect] which cancel the "Previous
predictions and revelations of Paul.)

THE BOOKS OF APOCRYPHA
----------------------
1- Tobit
2- Judith
3- Esther
4- The wisdom of Solomon.
5- Brauch.
6- 1st. Maccabees
7- 2nd. Maccabees

(The term "Apocrypha" refers to the seven Catholic doubtful books which were
rejected by the protestants, who removed them from their King James Bible.
The following references [John 14:25] predict about the coming of the Holy
Spirit after Jesus leaves, to teach Christians all things. But the apocryphal
books remained in the Bible 16 hundred years, yet the Holy Spirit did not
warn them during that long period that their Bible contained seven apocryphal
books.
The King James Bible was written and authorized in 1611 a.d., which means that
all Christians were kept in deception and there was no role or any coming of
the Holy Spirit. Who shall we believe: Catholics whom their Bible contain 73
books, or Protestants whom their Bible contains 66 books. If it is blasphemy
to take even a title from the Bible, who is blaspheming: those who added
these seven books from the very beginning, or those who expunged them?)

APOCRYPHAL BOOKS IN "TODAY ENGLISH'S VERSION"
---------------------------------------------
1- Sirach
2- The letter of Jeremiah
3- The prayer of Azariah and the song of the three young men
4- Susana
5- Bell of the dragon
6- 1st. Esdras
7- 2nd. Esdras
8- The prayer of Manasseh

(There are two different and contradictory copies of that version: one contains
these additional books which makes them 81, the other copy does not contain
these additional books.)


APOCRYPHAL VERSES IN K.J.V.
---------------------------

(After the removal of seven books from the Catholic Bible, here comes the
turn of the K.J. version which became the second victim, and which also
became exposed to so many criticisms and doubts. Every new sect of
Christianity gives its own doubt against the K.J. version. It had been
revised by 32 of the highest scholars backed by 15 co-operating denominations.
The all agreed in the introduction of the R.S.V, that: "The king James version
has grave defects which are so many and so serious".
Therefore, they allowed themselves to omit (through this declaration) many
verses from it as you will see in these coming verses.
The Mormons do not trust the K.J.V, the keep it under the watch of their own
Mormon's book, the Jehovah witnesses submit that it contains 50,000 errors
according to (AWAKE magazine 8 September 1957) and therefore they have their
own "modified Bible". Hence, We ask this : where is the role of the Holy
Spirit who was supposed to lead them out of this confusion ?!)

MATHEW 17:21
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K.J.V Howbeit this kink goes not out but by prayer and fasting.
R.S.V Omitted
N.I.V Omitted
G.N.B Omitted
L.B.V Omitted (This Bible is known as the LIVING BIBLE. Published
previously in 1962. It represents another great change
in its verses and expression in comparison to the other
versions of the Bible. According to some Christian
authorities it is considered as a shameful Bible.)

MARK 9:44
---------
K.J.V Where their warm dies not, and the fire is not quenched.
R.S.V Omitted
G.N.B Omitted
N.I.V Omitted
L.B.V Omitted

MARK 9:46
---------
K.J.V Where their warm dies not, and the fire is not quenched.
R.S.V Omitted
N.I.V Omitted
G.N.B Omitted
L.B.V Omitted

MARK 16:9-20
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K.J.V (all paragraph from 9 till 20.
R.S.V Omitted (in edition 1952 and restored in recent editions)

(The commentators of recent versions admitted at the footnotes of N.I.V AND
R.S.V AND L.B.V that these verses were exposed to many additions and insertions
saying:
"The most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark
16:9-20" (N.I.V)
"Verses 9-20 are not found in the most ancient manuscripts, but may be
considered an appendix giving additional facts." (L.B.V)
"Some of the most ancient authorities bring the book to a close at the end of
verse 8. One authority concludes the book by ADDING after verse 8 the
following:
'But they reported briefly to Peter and those with him all that they had been
told.. ETC.' Other authorities include the preceding passage and continue with
verses 9-20. In most authorities verses 9-20 follow immediately after verse 8;
a few authorities INSERT ADDITIONAL MATERIAL after verse 14." (R.S.V)

LUKE 9:56
---------
K.J.V For the son of man is not come to destroy men's life, but save.
R.S.V Omitted
N.I.V Omitted
G.N.B Omitted
L.B.V Omitted

LUKE 17:36
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K.J.V. Two men shall be in the field, the one shall be taken and the other
left.
R.S.V Omitted
N.I.V Omitted
G.N.B Omitted

JOHN 5:4
--------
K.J.V For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool and troubled
the water. Whosoever then after the troubling of the water stepped in
was made of whatsoever disease he had.
R.S.V Omitted
N.I.V Omitted
G.N.B Omitted

1 JOHN 5:7
-----------
K.J.V For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the father and the
word and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.
R.S.V Omitted
N.I.V For there are three that testify: The spirit The water, and the blood
and these three are in agreement.
G.N.B There are three witnesses: The spirit the water and the blood, and all
three give the same testimony.
L.B.V The verses 6,7,8 are totally omitted.

"BEGOTTEN" IS OMITTED JOHN 3:16
--------------------------------
K.J.V For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son.
R.S.V For God so love the world that he gave his only son.
N.I.V For God so love the world that he gave his one and only son.
G.N.B For God so love the world, so much that he gave his only son.
L.B.V For God loved the world so much that he gave his only son.

ROMANS 7:15
------------
R.S.V I do not understand my own actions.
K.J.V Omitted

MARK 16:19 AND LUKE 24:15 AND JOHN 8:1-10
------------------------------------------
K.J.V After the Lord spoke to them he was received up into heaven.
R.S.V Omitted in 1952 version and restored in the recent publications.

(These verses were omitted in the revised standard version which was published
in 1952, the same verses were restored in the next publication of 1972 after
great controversy.
These verses talk about the ascension of Jesus and the women who were taken in
adultery. The Living Bible's commentators stated at its note p.79 that most
ancient manuscripts omit John 7:53 - 8:1-11)


CHANGES OF VERSES
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LUKE 22:70
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K.J.V Then they said, "Are you the son of God? He said unto them, "You
said that I am."
N.I.V They all asked, "Are you the son of God? He said, "You are right
in saying I am."
L.B.V They all shouted "Then you claim you are the son of God. And He
replied YES I AM."

DUET. 23:2
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K.J.V A BASTARD shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord.
N.I.V No one born of a forbidden marriage may enter the assembly of the
Lord.
G.N.B No one born out of wedlock may be included among the Lord's people.

HEBREW 12:8
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K.J.V Then you are BASTARDS, and not sons.
R.S.V Then you are illegitimate children and not sons.
G.N.B It means you are not real sons, but BASTARDS.
L.B.V It means that you are not God's son at all.

JOB 13:15
----------
K.J.V Though he slay me yet I trust him.
R.S.V He will slay me, I have no hope.
G.N.B I've lost all hope so what if God kills me.
L.B.V God may kill me for saying this-in fact, I expect him to.

PSALMS 2:7
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K.J.V David said, "God said to me: You are my son, this day I have begotten
you.
N.I.V David said, "God said to me: You are my son today I have become your
father.
(The N.I.V revisers analyzed that the word begotten should not be attributed to
both David, and Jesus, while Jesus should be the only begotten son of God as
John 3:16 proclaims. Yet by this modification of this verse -as well as others-
they attract the attention of the people how the false pen of the SCRIBES
change the word of God as Jeremiah 8:8 proclaimed.)

LEVITICUS 15:20
----------------
K.J.V And everything that she lies upon in her separation shall be unclean.
R.S.V And everything upon which she lies in her impurity shall be unclean.
L.B.V Anything she lies on sits on during that time shall be defiled.

BETWEEN ACTS 9:3 AND ACTS 22:9
-------------------------------
K.J.V They saw the light, but they heard not the voice.
N.I.V They saw the light, but they did not understand the voice.

(The reason behind the change in this verse is because of the contradiction
between Act. 9:3 and Act. 22:9 which they attempted to cover. We find that
modification in the N.I.V.)

ANOTHER ADDITION IN G.N.B.
---------------------------
G.N.B The women went to Peter and his friends, and gave a brief account
of all they had been told.
R.S.V Does not exist
N.I.V Does not exist
K.J.V Does not exist

CHANGING RED INK TO BLACK
--------------------------
JOHN 17:12
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K.J.V Those which you have given me I lost none but one. (red)
L.B.V Those which you have given me I lost none but one. (black)

JOHN 18:9
---------
K.J.V Those which you have given me I lost none. (red)
L.B.V Those which you have given me I lost none. (black)

REVELATION OF JOHN
-------------------
Almost 79 of the red Ink verses in the book of revelation were changed into
black !!

WHY DID LUKE WRITE HIS GOSPEL ?
-------------------------------
[Luke 1:1]
For as much as many have taken in order a declaration of these things which
are most surely believed among us. Even as they DELIVERED THEM UNTO US, WHICH
FROM THE BEGINNING WERE EYEWITNESSED AND MINISTERS OF THE WORD: IT SEEMED GOOD
TO ME also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first
to write unto you in order, MOST EXCELLENT THE-OPH'-I-LUS, (the church tried
to know : who is that The-oph'-i-lus, Luke's close friend. However, there are
some Christians today claim that this is not a name of a person, but a Greek
word which means "People".
* I do not understand why the whole Bible was translated into English except
for this word!
* And if such: what is the value of keeping it ?
* And they start this "so called" Greek word with a capital letter ?
* And who was "most excellent" to Luke ? The people or his friend: The-oph'-i-
lus ?
This is how they defend the error by making another error, it is in fact
another trick, by this they attempt to avoid the difficulties which this
paragraph creates. The fact that this introduction of Luke's Gospel makes his
Gospel no more than a personal letter.) that you MIGHT KNOW THE CERTAINTY of
those things wherein you have been instructed. (This paragraph indicates three
essential points:
* Luke was not an eyewitness to Jesus peace be with him.
* He did not claim that he was inspired, but it seemed good idea to him to
write his book.
* His book was only a message to his friend, not to the world.)

DID MOSES WRITE DEUTERONOMY ?
------------------------------
[Deut. 34:5]
So Moses the servant of the Lord DIED there in the land of Moab according to
the word of the Lord. And he buried him in a valley, but no man KNEW HIS
SEPULCHRE UNTO THIS DAY. And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when
he died.

DID MATHEW WRITE HIS GOSPEL ?
------------------------------
[Math. 9:9]
And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man names Mathew, sitting at
the receipt of custom: and he said unto him: Follow me. And he arose, and
followed him.

DID JOHN WRITE HIS GOSPEL ?
---------------------------
[John 21:24]
This is the disciple which testifies of these things, and wrote these things:
And we know that his testimony is true.

IS GOD SPEAKING IN THESE VERSES ?
---------------------------------
[Psalm 10:1]
Why do you stand a far off, O Lord, why do you HIDE YOURSELF in times of
trouble ?
[Psalm 89:46]
HOW LONG, O LORD ? WILL YOU HIDE YOURSELF FOREVER ? How long will your wrath
burn like fire ?
[Lam. 3:18]
My strength and MY HOPE IS PERISHED FROM THE LORD.

THE CLOAK THAT PAUL LEFT
------------------------
[2 Timo. 4:9]
This book, of "Timothy" is in fact a letter from Paul to his close friend
Timothy, for example he said to him "Do your diligence to come shortly unto
me.. The cloak that I left at Tro'-as with Carpus, when you come, bring with
you, and the books. But specially the parchments.

GOD'S REVELATION OF PAUL'S ?!!
-------------------------------
[Gal. 5:2]
Behold, I Paul, say unto you, that if you be circumcised Christ shall profit
you nothing.
[1 Corin. 7:10]
And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord..
12 Butto the rest I SPEAK, NOT THE LORD.
25 Now concerning virgins I HAVE NO COMMAND OF THE LORD YET I GIVE MY JUDGMENT.

PAUL IS RESPONSIBLE
---------------------
[1 Corin. 9:19]
Paul said: I made myself slave to all, that I might win the more. To the Jews
I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as
under the law-though not being under the law- that I might win those under the
law. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law-not being without
law toward God but under the law of Christ.

THE DISCIPLES OF JESUS ACCUSE PAUL
-----------------------------------
[Acts 21:20]
They said to him, "How many thousands of Jews there are which believe, and they
are zealous of the law: and they are informed of you, that you teach all the
jews which are among the GENTILES to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not
to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs."
THEREFORE HE WAS COMPLAINING TO TIMOTHY THAT ALL OF THEM DOUBTED HIM AND LEFT
HIM SAYING:

[1 Timo. 1:15]
You know that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me.
[2 Timo. 4:16]
Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil, the Lord reward him according to
his works. Of whom you be ware also, for he has greatly withstood our wards.
At my first answer no man stood with me.

PAUL CALLED THE LAW OLD !
-------------------------
[Gal. 5:4]
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the
law, YOU ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE.
[Rom 7:6]
But now we are DELIVERED FROM THE LAW.

[Gal. 2:16]
A man is NOT JUSTIFIED BY WORKS of the law, but by faith of Jesus Christ. (this
idea of Paul contradicts absolutely the book of James 20:1 and the book of
Ezekiel 14:14 "They should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness".
It even contradicts what Paul himself said that "God will render to every man
according to his deeds." [Rom. 2:6])
For if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
[Gal. 3:10]
For as many as are of the works of the law are UNDER THE CURSE.
[2 Corin. 3:6]
God made us able ministers of the new testament.

FINALLY HE CANCELLED IT !!!
---------------------------
[Heb. 8:13]
Paul said, "In that He [God] said, "A new covenant." He had made the first old.
Now that which decayeth and waxeth old: is ready to VANISH AWAY.

DOES PAUL RESPECT JESUS ?!!
---------------------------
[Gal. 3:13]
Paul said: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse
for us. (Let those who truthfully love Jesus the Christ remember that this
great Prophet was cursed in their Bible. For it is enough and great blasphemy
in Islam to refer to Jesus such horrible description. High is Jesus above what
their description of him.) For it is written: Cursed be everyone who hangs on
a tree.

IS PAUL SINLESS OF SINFUL ?!!!
--------------------------------
[Gal 2:15]
He said: We who are Jews by nature, and NOT SINNERS of the Gentiles.
[Rom. 7:15]
But he also said: I do not understand my own action. For I do not do what I
want, but I do the very thing I hate.

Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good. So then it is no
longer I that I do it, but SIN WHICH DWELLS WITHIN ME, that is in my flesh.

I can will what is right, but I can not do it, for I do not do the good I want,
but the evil I do not want is what I do.

Now if I do not want, it is no longer that I do it, but SIN WHICH DWELLS WITHIN
ME. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right evil lies close at
hand.

For I delight in the law of God in my inmost self. but I see my members another
law at war with the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of SIN
WHICH DWELLS IN MY MEMBERS.

Wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this body of death.

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