Re: But that itself is not the truth!

Thank you for replying, and I understand you do what yagottado when defending the faith- Klyd! Its so nice to hear you! Thank you~
Understand Im not bashing you, and Im not bashing the Bible, or God, or Jesus. I only love to bash satan the loser- in the name of God- ( he shrinks when ya say that!)
You'll flip with these questions adn you'll say to them: you just have to have faith because no one knows the anser to them"

I understand you believe Jesus became God sometime after he was born? How can a God have a baby god and then that baby god becomes god and then they become one and then three become one and then the baby god gets killed and ( god gets born and killed?) and who gave the power to kill a god-certainly if he was god he could have stopped it, and if its all a plan then why would god need to murder a person/son god to achieve redemtion for all of lifes inhabitants- you see how its twisted????because all you have to do is say I beleive and you can still go on cheatin sltealin lying sleepin with anyone you want= look at the sleazo outfits girls are wearing today- and its just fine for men who can get anyone they want and have zero responsibility-how many single child parents today? how many men have only known their wives? It used to be good, and now its disgusting. Christianity does not correct this. Although it talks about it in the bible, yet its so- "just beleive Jesus died for you and everything will be alright" well these people write on a howmany ton missle( weapon of great destruction) have a happy ramadhan and are so proud of them selves after they murder and sexually torture old men ( Iraq)! What so they say I beleive and they are Saved while they go to war and murder old women children and poor innocent human beings.??

Now you see what I beleive your religion is a distortion of the true message of all the prophets.

As for you thinking against me that is fine. I also have to defend my faith:

But where you are wrong is this moon god thing- its a very popular thing nowadays and this is what is used to call muslims indfidels.

I was raised catholic and I never would even think of worshipping a moon- c'mon! I used to be such a Feminist , even look at me wrong boy, and watch out!
I would never bow to a man, never the less the moon! lets get real- those are lies klyd. I dont lie.

What The Qur'an says about Moon
. 1) Crescent moon as the standard to be used for reckoning of time:
"They ask you about new crescent moons, say they are to mark fixed times for mankind and Hajj." (2:189)

2) Moon is not my Lord:
"When he saw the moon rising in splendor He said: "This is my Lord." but when the moon set he said: Unless my Lord guide me I shall surely be among those who go astray." (6:77)

3) Sun and Moon to be used for reckoning of time:
"And He who made the night for rest and sun and moon for reckoning of time. This is the decree of the Exalted, the All-knowing." (6:96)

4) Sun, moon, and the stars governed by laws:
"Allah is He, who created the sun, the moon, and the stars (all) governed by laws under His commandment." (7:54)

5) Moon is the measure of month:
"The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year) so ordained by Him the day He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are sacred; that is the straight usage.......Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to unbelief: the unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year and forbidden another year in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject faith." (9:36-37)

6) Sun is source of light and Moon is just light:
"It is He who made sun a lamp, and moon a light and measured stages so you know number of years and count (of time)." (10:5)

7) Joseph's Dream:
"Behold Joseph said to his father: O my father! I did see eleven stars and the sun and the moon: I saw them prostrate themselves to me!"

8) Sun and moon continue in an orbit to their destiny:
"Allah is He who raised heavens without pillars that you can see; Then He established Himself on the throne; And He subjected the sun and the moon (to his law); each one runs its course for a term appointed." (13:2)

9) Allah created Sun and moon, and He made them subject to you:
"It is Allah Who hath created the heavens and the earth and sendeth down rain from the skies......... He has made subject to you, the night and the day; the sun and the moon; and the stars in subjection by His command." (14:32-33)

10) Day and night, sun and moon, and stars made for you:
"He has made subject to you, the night and the day; the sun and the moon; and the stars in subjection by His command." (16:12)

11) Sun bright - Moon dark (no light):
"We made night and day two signs. The sign of night we made dark and sign of day we made bright. That ye may seek bounty from your lord and ye may know number of years and count (of time)." (17:12)

12) Orbits of celestial bodies:
"It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its orbit." (21:33)

13) All things bow down to Allah:
"See you not that to Allah bow down in worship all things in the heavens and on earth, the sun, the moon, the stars." (22:18)

14) Moon is reflected light of the sun:
"Blessed is He who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a lamp and a moon reflecting light (25:61)

15) Sun and moon continue in an orbit to their destiny:
"See you not Allah merges night into day and day into night; And subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law); each one runs its course for a term appointed." (31:29)

16) Sun and moon continue in an orbit to their destiny:
"He merges night into day and day into night; And subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law); each one runs its course for a term appointed." (35:13)

17) Ordained orbits of celestial bodies:
"And the moon, we have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old, (withered, and curved-up like a sickle) date-palm. It is not permitted for sun to catch-up the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day; each swims along in (its own) orbit." (36:39-40)

18) Sun and moon continue in an orbit to their destiny:
"He created heavens and the earth in true proportions; He makes night overlap day and day overlap night and subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law); each one runs its course for a term appointed." (39:5)

19) Do not Prostrate to the Sun and Moon:
"Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the sun and moon. Prostrate not to the Sun and the Moon but Prostrate to Allah Who created them if it is Him ye wish to serve." (41:37)

20) Moon is split asunder:
"The hour (of Judgment) is near and the moon is split asunder." (54:1)

21) Celestial bodies tied to orbits:
"The sun and the moon follow courses exactly computed." (55:05)

22) Sun is source of light and Moon is just light:
"And made the moon a light in their midst and made the sun as a (Glorious) lamp." (71:16)

23) Swear by the Moon:
"Nay verily: by the Moon." (74:32)

24) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"And the moon is buried in darkness. And the sun and moon are joined together." (75:8-9)

25) Moon becomes full:
"And the moon when it becomes full." (84:18)

26) Moon follows the sun:
"By the sun and its radiant brightness; By the moon as she follows him." (91:1-2)
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What The Qur'an says about Astronomy
. 1) Big Bang - Creation of the heavens and earth:
"To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth; when He decrees a matter He said to it: "Be"; and it is." (2:117)

2) Stars are fixed to guide the travelers in the land and the sea:
"And it is He who ordained the stars for you that you may be guided thereby in the darkness of the land and the sea." (6:97)

3) Judgment Day:
"One day the Earth will be changed to a different Earth and so will be the Heavens and (men) will be marshalled forth before Allah the One the Irresistible." (14:48)

4) Constellations:
"And verily in the skies We have set constellations and beautified it for beholders." (15:16)

5) Stars and other signs to be used for directions:
"And marks and sign-posts and by the stars, (men) guide themselves." (16:16)

6) Creation of Mankind and Heavens By Allah:
"See they not that Allah Who created the heavens and the earth has power to create the like of them (anew)?...." (17:99)

7) Big Bang:
"Don't the Unbelievers see that the universe was once joined together, then We burst it apart. We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe." (21:30)

8) Sun Moon Stars subjected to His Law:
"If indeed thou ask them who has created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law); they will certainly reply Allah." (29:61)

9) Sun is moving:
"And the suns runs towards its destination (resting place) ...." (36:38)

10) Gaseous state of universe:
"Then He turned to the sky when it had been gas and said to it and the earth, condense willingly or unwillingly. And they said, "We condensed willingly." (41:11)

11) Creation of the heavens and earth, not mere idle play:
"We have not created the heaven and the earth and all that is between them in mere idle play. None of this have We created without an inner truth: but most of them understand it not." (44:38-39)

12) Expansion of the universe:
"And the universe, we constructed with power and skill and verily we are expanding it." (51:47)


13) Sirius (the Mighty Star):
"And He is the Lord of Sirius (the Mighty Star)" (53:49)

14) Space flight:
"O assembly of Jinns and men when you can penetrate regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate them! Not without power (or authority) will you be able to pass." (55:33)

15) Other galaxies:
"God is the One Who created seven heavens and of the earth a similar number. The command descends upon them so that you know that God has power over all things and comprehends all things in His knowledge." (65:12)

16) Seven Heavens, Stars, and the skies:
"He Who created the seven heavens, one above another: No want of proportion will you see in the creation of Most Gracious, so turn your face again; Do you see any flaw ....... And We have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps ...." (67:3-5)

17) Seven Heavens:
"See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another." (71:15)

18) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"When the stars are put out and when the sky is cleft asunder." (77:8-9)

19) Creation of Mankind and Heavens By Allah:
What! are ye the more difficult to create of the heaven (above)? (Allah) has constructed it; On high has He raised its canopy and He has given it order and perfection; Its night dose He endow with darkness and its splendor does He bring out (with light). (79:27-29)

20) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"When the sun is folded up and when the stars loose their lustre." (81:1-2)

21) Planets (Retrograde Motion):
"So verily I call to witness the planets that recede." (81:15)

22) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"When the sky is cleft asunder and the planets are scattered and the oceans are forced to join." (82:1-3)

23) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"When the sky is split asunder and attentive to her lord, and it must do so." (84:1-2)

24) Constellations:
"Consider the sky full of great constellations." (85:1)

25) Moon, Stars, and Planets:
"By the sky and the night-visitant; and what do you know what the night-visitant is? It is the star of piercing brightness." (86:1-3)

26) Sky Raised High:
"And at the Sky how it is raised high?" (88:18)

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