Re: Post written by Rainy. Important Information.

Yes, I admit I lean towards the belief in a physical return of Christ ...

The implication being that I don't?

I also lean towards two physical men, one being the false prophet and one being the antichrist of Revelation 13.

Finalism doesn't preclude that possibility either, and on the basis of 2 Thess. 2, I'd say that was highly probable.

I don't have any faith that anyone has it all figured out correctly.

Neither do I, but some can be a lot closer to the truth than others.

I don't feel the Lord wants me to waste my time on it.

The pursuit of truth is never a waste of time. Chasing ghosts and an earthly 'paradise' tho.....well, yes, you could waste a lot of time on that.

I do believe in a physical catching away as described in Thessalonians

Again, so do I. It's in the Bible after all. Except I believe it's in the context of the end of all time, not a precursor to yet more shattering earth-based events, whether tribulational or millennial.

Don't bad weather reports do the same? Can't a warning be given of something that may happen, even though we are not sure?

Debatable. Weather reports are based largely on supercomputer models, simulations, etc., that are extrapolated from empirical data fed into them from weather stations around the globe. That doesn't make them infallible, but they've proved pretty reliable over a 3-day forecast, somewhat less so over a 7-day forecast. Your analogy therefore falls at the first hurdle. There is no real point of contact (except the one made by Jesus in Mt.16:1-4), coz any false prophet would sell his soul to have that kinda accuracy. 

As far as my posting other warnings in the future, I don't plan on ever coming back after I close this account.

More's the pity, and sorry to lose you. Not coz you're a 'foil' to my Finalism either. But at the very least, you should never give up the search for truth.

God does not want me to reject anything from Him that He is trying to give me....I believe the false prophets will continue as long as God has His true prophets in the world.

Aye, there's the rub. Distinguishing the genuine from the fraudulent. I could probably find a thousand Sundars on YT - maybe more, each with their own take on the future, mostly directly contradicting each other on practically every detail. What makes Sundar more likely to be right than all the others? Absolutely nothing as far as I can tell. If you think you can discern the genuine voice from this cacophany of 'prophetic' voices, good luck to you.

Personally, I find it a lot easier to simply pronounce a plague on all their houses. Scripture alone gives me all the warnings I need about false teachers and prophets. I don't need another false prophet to warn me about false prophets, antichrist, or any other impending eschatological disaster for that matter. Am I mistaken to adopt this attitude to them? Am I losing out on God's blessings or gifts for me? I'm more than happy to allow time to deliver its verdict on that score.

I'm actually hoping it fails. I will rejoice if it fails....You are rejecting a portion of Him, one may say. You should seek discernment instead.

A flat contradiction, as far as I can tell. Your discernment has led you to post a prophecy that you hope will fail? What exactly is the value in this kind of 'discernment'. Does it add anything to our knowledge or faith? Does it build up the church? Or does it more likely perhaps bring the whole subject of Jesus' return into disrepute and make us objects of derision? I fear lest your discernment has been hijacked by unprofitable pursuits. 

Having said all that, it was never my intention to engage you in a protracted debate over this. The simple truth is that we both have entrenched views on the subject, and are not likely to agree for the foreseeable future at least. I will therefore give you the last word if you are inclined to reply to this post, but I will desist from a further response myself.

I will instead leave you with a couple of final thoughts though:

1.  All the 'traffic' is from your position to mine. I'm not aware of a single author of a chiliast book who was formerly a Finalist, but I could give you many examples of Finalist authors who were formerly chiliasts. When you consider what is involved in abandoning a previously held position, oftentimes for multiple decades, you will begin to appreciate the strength of the arguments that must have led those authors to make such painful breaks with their past. Despite your professed fence-sitting, I suspect that one day you may well have to face the same dilemma. 

2. All such 'prophecies' as those made by Sundar Selvaraj originate exclusively from your side of the debate. You will not find a single Finalist engage in such pointless, sensationalist and unprofitable speculation - which is all it is at best. At worst, it is an outright spiritual fraud that will receive its reward 'on that day', and you, dear sis., are in grave danger of being ensnared by it.

For your own sake, I hope you sharpen up those discernment skills post haste.   

 

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