Well Tony suggested Lobelia and Mullien as you did and did not have those and so used black seed oil. I tried it both ways and the black seed oil worked the best. Now here is a new testimony. My sister's husband has had 4 strokes like me and 3 heart attacks and was headed back to the nursing home because he could not breathe like me and one treatment with black seed oil and the Soverign Silver and he could sleep and breathe better. I convinced him not to give up yet and my sister ordered the ionic silver and she had black seed oil and he is home still.