Re: Loquat...
You said, "Arguably, maybe, but it is at least an equally valid interpretation (if not more so) that the perceived shame is their experience, not ours.
It's a clever argument to avoid its obvious meaning, but that's all it is."
How is it avoiding the obvious meaning when the only other time this particular "contempt" word is used, it's used in this context:
Isaiah 66:24
24“And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”
That word "abhorrence" there is the exact same Hebrew word used in Dan. 12:2 as contempt.
And so it's plainly saying there in Isaiah 66:24 that they will be contemptuous to everyone else, not themselves. Scripture interprets scripture, right?
But what is the rest of all that saying in Isaiah 66:24, since traditionalists use the undying worm and unquenchable fire as proofs for their arguments too?
I believe it's saying that these dead bodies will be completely consumed. The fire is unquenchable in that it will not be quenched before everything is gone. The worms will keep eating the bodies until everything is gone. I know, lovely imagery. :(
What are those immortal worms doing for all eternity in your metaphorical view?