Re: Loquat...

Also, all this torment is said to be done in the presence of the holy angels and the Lamb. So this is what Christ and the Holy Angels will be doing for all eternity, watching the wicked suffer? I thought he was going to be with us. I guess he'll be multi-tasking.

So you have no concept of God's omnipresence, omniscience and omnipotence in your theology then? How about His universal sovereignty? Or was that just a cheap shot? If you're gonna 'convince' me, you're gonna hafta do a lot better than that.

My original point about the philology being against you still stands, in the sense that your position requires the original Gk words that are translated as 'perish' or 'destroy' to mean annihilation. When you examine their usage in the rest of the NT, your case largely collapses.

I'll probably be making this the main thrust of my counter-arguments in due course - accompanied by some rebuttals of what I suspect are some dubious interpretations of the passages on which you rely.

Watch this space.