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Here's an article by Chris Date you might find interesting too. In this he talks about his experience in coming to the Conditional Immortality view and the backlash he got. And again, he's a Finalist, not a full-preterist (just wanted to clarify that since he says he contributes to his friend's Preterist blog).

http://www.rethinkinghell.com/2012/06/reformed-and-rethinking-introducing-chris-date/

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Loquat... vektek 7 y 1,427
- Thanks for the reminder. I have read this serie... loquat1 7 y 1,472
  - Yeah, that’s a great verse to add to all he said! ... vektek 7 y 1,315
    - Good job too. You should also give him the link ... loquat1 7 y 1,433
      - Alrighty, will do! vektek 7 y 1,347
      - I have some disagreements with that last article y... vektek 7 y 1,385
        
        Hmm.........does he really say that? I'm su... loquat1 7 y 1,296
        
        Ok good! I thought we were on the same page with ... vektek 7 y 1,315
        
        Yeah, apologies. I should have 'vetted'... loquat1 7 y 1,350
        
        Don’t feel bad loquat. Even vektek and I have run... refreshed 7 y 1,304
        
        I'm happy to share my views on this forum i... loquat1 7 y 1,317
        
        Loquat you said, ”But, like you, I have not dotted... vektek 7 y 1,415
        
        Any chance it might be the subject I just posted o... loquat1 7 y 1,276
        
        I don’t know Refreshed, I’m pretty careful about w... vektek 7 y 1,314
        
        But what I haven’t been careful with is the bible ... vektek 7 y 1,295
        
        Or you can read both at the same time. http://... refreshed 7 y 1,371
        
        Yeah, that would be real useful, thanks! vektek 7 y 1,317
        
        Funny you should say that vekky. I used to thin... loquat1 7 y 1,342
        
        Well I’m not ready to become a staunch KJV only pe... vektek 7 y 1,315
        
        Re: Loquat... loquat1 7 y 1,280
        
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        No, I’m sick of that subject. lol vektek 7 y 1,293
        
        Evolution v Creation/Intelligent Design? loquat1 7 y 1,289
        
        Re: Loquat... vektek 7 y 1,361
        
        Eternal punishment/Hell? loquat1 7 y 1,343
        
        Re: Loquat... vektek 7 y 1,296
        
        Sitting on da fence huh? loquat1 7 y 1,326
        
        Okay, you got me, and if you are not interested in... vektek 7 y 1,300
        
        Aha, so you are a heretic. Thought so. Remind... loquat1 7 y 1,299
        
        I’ve always loved that joke, even though the one I... vektek 7 y 1,317
        
        There are several versions on the interweb. I adde... loquat1 7 y 1,306
        
        I’ve always thought purgatory was like a temporary... vektek 7 y 1,253
        
        Nope. The RC doctrine of Purgatory mandates that i... loquat1 7 y 1,370
        
        Yeah, I got it now. I haven’t studied RC doctrine ... vektek 7 y 1,306
        
        You haven’t missed much. It’s basically a system o... loquat1 7 y 1,284
        
        Oh, I know that for sure. You can find many rants... vektek 7 y 1,274
        
        Yeah, I know. Some of ’em profess to believe thing... loquat1 7 y 1,422
        
        Yeah, you have to get down to the nitty gritty of ... vektek 7 y 1,296
        
        Indubitably. So, back to topic. You don’t beli... loquat1 7 y 1,262
        
        Yes, that is correct. So hold whatever though... vektek 7 y 1,287
        
        In that case, just make sure I never find you st... loquat1 7 y 1,391
        
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        And to think of all the missionaries in the world ... refreshed 7 y 1,281
        
        Yeah, being a heretic has some serious drawback... loquat1 7 y 1,301
        
        After? I don’t know, I’m not a true dispensationa... refreshed 7 y 1,342
        
        Who said anything about dispensations? ... loquat1 7 y 1,277
        
        If you will notice I used the word ”possibly”. ... refreshed 7 y 1,358
        
        I did indeed notice, and there is no 'possi... loquat1 7 y 1,335
        
        I’m not talking about anyone rejecting Jesus and b... refreshed 7 y 1,243
        
        Neither am I. I'm talking about rejecting H... loquat1 7 y 1,316
        
        My comment that you quoted was about eternity...no... refreshed 7 y 1,359
        
        Yep, second chancism, exactly what I originally ... loquat1 7 y 1,373
        
        It’s seems it would very messy trying to explain e... refreshed 7 y 1,258
        
        Those were only jokes, as noted elsewhere. Trou... loquat1 7 y 1,256
        
        Refreshed you said, ”And to think of all the missi... vektek 7 y 1,273
        
        I guess it’s the word ”glorious”. Almost like a t... refreshed 7 y 1,265
        
        Refreshed you said, ”I guess it’s the word ”glorio... vektek 7 y 1,294
        
        What’s wrong with curezone? It feels like it’s ta... vektek 7 y 1,290
        
        Loquat, you said, ”You don’t believe in hell, in t... vektek 7 y 1,376
        
        Not necessarily, but there is at least some mer... loquat1 7 y 1,266
        
        You said, ”The problem you have is that you’re equ... vektek 7 y 1,366
        
        Here’s an article by Chris Date you might find int... vektek 7 y 1,270
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        Without addressing any of your points now (I... loquat1 7 y 1,308
        
        There is no doubt that some people are horrendousl... vektek 7 y 1,270
        
        You are assuming that all suffering is equal, b... loquat1 7 y 1,268
        
        There’s also many that think the death penalty is ... vektek 7 y 1,275
        
        Buy hey Loquat, I sense you need to slow this deba... vektek 7 y 1,378
        
        Well that was because in the beginning people thou... refreshed 7 y 1,286
        
        Refreshed you said, ”I was relieved to find out th... vektek 7 y 1,331
        
        I have medically had to scrape the dying skin off ... refreshed 7 y 1,309
        
        Also, all this torment is said to be done in ... loquat1 7 y 1,330
        
        ”So you have no concept of God’s omnipresence, omn... vektek 7 y 1,347
        
        Was just joking with that one about Christ mult... loquat1 7 y 1,310
        
        If you want to use the word annihilation, go ahead... vektek 7 y 1,299
        
        We shall see in due course, shan't we? ... loquat1 7 y 1,308
        
        Yeah, that’s a good one! :) My dad asked one t... vektek 7 y 1,411
        
        Well, at least the drilling can’t be any more pain... loquat1 7 y 1,332
        
        Oh, no telling what all he’s pondered about the pr... vektek 7 y 1,260
        
        Good man! That’s what I like - someone who anticip... loquat1 7 y 1,250
        
        My dad’s not taking these things we just talked ab... vektek 7 y 1,236
        
        My dad's not taking these things we just ta... loquat1 7 y 1,397
        
        Loquat you said, ”Both your grandma and your dad u... vektek 7 y 1,291
        
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        Here’s a short excerpt from Edward Fudge, on the I... vektek 7 y 1,258
        
        You said, ”It makes no sense to me. Physical restr... vektek 7 y 1,332
        
        I said don’t call me shirley. loquat1 7 y 1,260
        
        Shirley you jest! How do you two understand the... refreshed 7 y 1,297
        
        Bang on the money sis. You’ve got it in one. Vekky... loquat1 7 y 1,254
        
        1 Timothy 6: 13I charge you in the presence of ... vektek 7 y 1,307
        
        Just something to think about. Have you ever he... refreshed 7 y 1,275
        
        Refreshed, I’m just interested in what the bible h... vektek 7 y 1,278
        
        Well I quoted scripture in my last post. I may no... refreshed 7 y 1,322
        
        Ephesians 1:13And in Him you were sealed with the ... refreshed 7 y 1,262
        
        Refreshed you said, ”We have our own spirit/soul t... vektek 7 y 1,268
        
        Actually, that's not quite what I said. Wha... loquat1 7 y 1,257
        
        But you believe the body is killed/destroyed, righ... vektek 7 y 1,327
        
        How about this for some comedy relief, just sent t... vektek 7 y 1,429
        
        Here’s more, a little late, but who cares.... lol ... vektek 7 y 1,350
        
        ’Destroyed’, yes. Annihilated - no. There’s a diff... loquat1 7 y 1,297
        
        I’ll deal with all this & more soon(ish). A bit ti... loquat1 7 y 1,370
        
        It’s metaphorically speaking. :) vektek 7 y 1,219
        
        Re: Loquat... loquat1 7 y 1,268
        
        Refreshed you said, ”Well I quoted scripture in my... vektek 7 y 1,248
        
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        The Science garb was my personal parable/analogy..... refreshed 7 y 1,335
        
        Alright! But don’t you still think that scienc... vektek 7 y 1,267
        
        Of course I agree. Didn’t Jesus formulate his par... refreshed 7 y 1,285
        
        Refreshed you said, ”If you do not believe tha... vektek 7 y 1,255
        
        Well again, I’m not following what some other man ... refreshed 7 y 1,246
        
        Refreshed you said, ”I read my bible and came to t... vektek 7 y 1,199
        
        You have beaten a dead horse now with your questio... refreshed 7 y 1,309
        
        ”You have beaten a dead horse now with your questi... vektek 7 y 1,232
        
        Gen. 1:26-27; 2:7 and Exodus 3:6 at least imply... loquat1 7 y 1,246
        
        You said, ”The imagery used may be s... vektek 7 y 1,252
        
        The fairness point was a general one rather than... loquat1 7 y 1,246
        
        You said, ”As for the meaning of death & perish, e... vektek 7 y 1,209
        
        Loquat, the strongest verse you listed in your pos... vektek 7 y 1,215
        
        Arguably, maybe, but it is at least an equally v... loquat1 7 y 1,313
        
        You said, ”Arguably, maybe, but it is at least a... vektek 7 y 1,212
        
        I have not had all my questions answered. What do... refreshed 7 y 1,262
        
        I have noticed a lot of confusing statements from ... loquat1 7 y 1,205
        
        Well look, if you both really want to know more ... vektek 7 y 1,217
        
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        http://curezone.com/upload/Members/new03/horsepost... refreshed 7 y 1,228
        
        There's a huge difference between playing &... loquat1 7 y 1,215
        
        No Loquat, my problem is just lack of time really.... vektek 7 y 1,216
        
        That was a long goodbye, but I agree, your daughte... loquat1 7 y 1,219
        
        On second thoughts............I think I'll ... loquat1 7 y 1,237
        
        @ refreshed - Don't feel obliged to respond ... loquat1 7 y 1,271
        
        I would like to see what your thoughts were that y... refreshed 7 y 1,258
        
        Hmm........well, if I ever knew, 'fraid to ... loquat1 7 y 1,303
        
        Yes, I do realize my feelings about what motivates... refreshed 7 y 1,227
        
        I can get sleepy during the daytime too, nevermind... loquat1 7 y 1,248
        
        I've substantially edited an earlier post (... loquat1 7 y 1,277
        
        I will agree that Jesus returning is very exciting... refreshed 7 y 1,206
        
        Bring whatever you’ve got Loquat! If I can’t hand... vektek 7 y 1,286
        
        Watch this space then. loquat1 7 y 1,228
        
        Re: Loquat... vektek 7 y 1,277
        
        Gordon Bennet vekky, what time do you get up? Don’... loquat1 7 y 1,208
        
        Just obeying the scriptures. Be doers of the wor... vektek 7 y 1,182
        
        I have DSPD, Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder. It’s l... vektek 7 y 1,213
        
        That is the passage I had in mind, & I hope you fo... loquat1 7 y 1,292
        
        I don’t know if the zone has a cure for LAPD. Just... vektek 7 y 1,188
        
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        Re: Loquat... loquat1 7 y 1,180
        
        Oh, I thought you were talking about the Los Angel... vektek 7 y 1,197
        
        I was, but since this is now getting a bit silly, ... loquat1 7 y 1,253
        
        Well hey, just be proud of me that I got the silly... vektek 7 y 1,186
        
        You myta got the wrong end of da stick. That was i... loquat1 7 y 1,220
        
        OT, but since I have your undivided here, have ... loquat1 7 y 1,230
        
        Yeah, I thought I noticed for UK time, you were up... vektek 7 y 1,352
        
        Yeah.......must be worth another go. But another t... loquat1 7 y 1,212
        
        Yeah, I know about the blue light. I actually have... vektek 7 y 1,207
        
        I wasn’t suggesting blue light as a cause - merely... loquat1 7 y 1,217
        
        I know you weren’t saying it was the whole cause. ... vektek 7 y 1,205
        
        Yeah, that's one of the great mysteries of l... loquat1 7 y 1,265
        
        Time to start a new thread? loquat1 7 y 1,215
        
        Probably is time to start a new one! vektek 7 y 1,175
        
        Well that’s another thing I quit trying to do, fig... vektek 7 y 1,305
        
        Pretty much says it all. You’ll both get equal... loquat1 7 y 1,190
        
        My time is short - especially now with several ... loquat1 7 y 1,278
        
        You said, ”My time is short- and You have g... vektek 7 y 1,245
        
        Don't worry, I won't be using your effo... loquat1 7 y 1,244
        
        Fair enough! But keep in mind the same rules ... vektek 7 y 1,323
        
        I haven’t even started yet, and you’re accusing me... loquat1 7 y 1,273
        
        It was just a friendly reminder. Most likely unnec... vektek 7 y 1,266
        
        Electro Cardio Tacography? Oh, you mean eternal... loquat1 7 y 1,246

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