Try not to cross post

To the original poster, next time if you have a question for 2 different forums, make the post twice instead of cross posting. Though the liverflush was your main post you got answers on other subjects.
People on the liverflush forum believe in flushing, so normally anti-flush posts would have been posted in the debate forum.
This thread has become so off topic that it is difficult to answer you without creating a debate and the object is to keep this a SUPPORT forum. Tweet