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Hi Lorica,

Thank you for your posts.

In answer to your EXCELLENT question: My experience with Bowel Tolerance dosing, on/with ascorbic acid, began in 1994 with the reading of Dr. Cathcart's "Titrating" article: http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm. When I began, my Bowel Tolerance was around 10 to 15 grams per day [which, as you noted, is somewhat typical]. What I found was that, as the months [and years] went by, my Bowel Tolerance very slowly and gradually [yet steadily], increased to where it is now, at around 75 to 100 grams per day [divided into 10 to 15 doses]. I believe that has come about because my GI tract has gradually been cleaned out/up over those many years. There is an old saying (perhaps you've heard [of] it, Lorica) in health circles, "Death begins in the colon." So I suspect that that cleansing has been VERY important to my [apparently] increasing good health.

As to that [level of] health, perhaps some specifics might be of interest: I am 64 years old; never get sick [including even a headache]; have no need whatsoever to visit doctors [dentists excepted]; have no need to ingest drugs whatsoever [be they over-the-counter or prescription (painkillers included, but the occasional "novocaine" injection excepted)]; and do not exercise [and have not for many years]. Although my health has always been pretty good [I used to exercise a great deal when younger], I would say it is even better now than when I was younger, judging by such things as no "colds" [whatsoever] anymore [not that I got them all that often before], nor do I get even the occasional sinus headache [which I would, every now and again, before], and noticeably much less sinus mucus at night and in the morning. All this while growing older. To say I am pleased with the [current and future health] possibilities would be an understatement.

As for diet and supplementation: Although I have experimented EXTENSIVELY over the years with many different diet and supplement variations [and combinations], the "garden of Eden" diet, i.e. 100% raw fruits and vegetables, being a prime example, my diet for many years now has been FAR from [that] perfection! Although I am, by-and-large, a vegetarian, I pretty much now eat whatever I feel like (and the 20 to 30 extra pounds [of fat] I am carrying certainly attests to the fact that I DO enjoy eating food [far TOO much])!

My outright "excitement," Lorica, with the possibilities of "electron therapy," e.g. daily Bowel Tolerance dosing with ascorbic acid, stems from the fact that, after many, many years of, more-or-less off-and-on attempts [and DISAPPOINTING failures] of/at trying to live [100%] on that ideal diet, i.e. raw fruits and vegetables, I now think I have ["miracle-of-miracles"(!)] found a way AROUND that most difficult [as least for me, personally and socially] conundrum of how to maintain excellent health, and yet still be free to "indulge" in the delights of "normal" EATING, e.g. with my family and friends! However, I am most certainly [and absolutely] convinced that that less-than-ideal diet, both in terms of quantity and quality, produces a very large amount of [dietary] toxins that need to be overcome, i.e. neutralized [and eliminated from the body], if I [or anyone else] wishes to live a healthy, drug [and doctor] free life. My study of the matter has brought to me the conclusion that that "neutralization, either directly or indirectly, ALWAYS DEPENDS upon bodily electron supply.

While it is true, Lorica, that there are many, many antioxidants that we can supplementally ingest, e.g. the vitamins A and E, etc., the minerals selenium and cesium, etc., the various bicarbonates and hydroxides, etc. [to name just a very few], there are NONE that I have ever discovered [and I have researched extensively] that one can ingest in large enough, i.e. therapeutic, quantities, over a long enough period of time, e.g. ideally a lifetime, healthfully, i.e. safely, other than ascorbic acid. It is true that the mineral ascorbates are also VERY good electron donors, and in the case of injecting directly into the body, sodium ascorbate is a necessity [vs. ascorbic acid]. But can you imagine the amount of extra sodium I would be ingesting, and therefore have to be eliminating [day-in and day- out], if I ingested all of my ascorbate in the sodium form? No such problem exists with the hydrogen form, and as mentioned in my previous post, you only need one-half of the hydrogen form to equal the SAME number of electrons [available] in/as the mineral form.

Which brings up, Lorica, what for me is the "magic" of Bowel Tolerance: It allows our BODY to signal us as to just HOW MUCH antioxidant it NEEDS/"wants" [or at least is currently able (healthwise) to absorb], to take care of whatever health assault it is under [at any particular moment in time]. As Dr. Cathcart wrote, "I have seen enormous increases in bowel tolerance to ascorbate in adults, several hours BEFORE there was any outward sign of their getting sick." Are we not ALL under that "assault" [more-or-less] constantly, e.g. from impure air, water, and/or [less than ideal] food [choices], and further, is it not true that we do not even [usually] know what those "assaults" are, until it is too late, e.g. we don't feel too well, or get "sick," and/or find out [from a doctor] we have some "disease[d]" [condition]? Yes, IF we live on a VERY strict calorie-restricted diet [ideally, IMO, the "garden of Eden" diet], our body's natural production of antioxidant electrons can generally handle/neutralize all [or at least most] of the toxins that it faces [additionally keeping its immune system strong]. But how many are willing to do that? From long, HARD, experience, I can certainly say NOT I [nor anybody I have ever met]. There are some people who apparently can [do so happily], e.g. Michael Arnstein, Douglas Graham, Anne Osborne, Andrew Perlot, etc. But that's unimportant to most of us average/"normal" mortals, eh?.

And so my efforts, Lorica, to try and "evangelize" this health "gospel" to as many people as possible, at least those that appear to be SEARCHING for a solution to their health issues. As an aside, I have a close friend that has encouraged me for years to write a book, i.e. about all of this. And I have thought quite a bit about doing just that. But I seem to have a problem with [the idea of] charging people money to get this information, and so my efforts on Curezone and a few other health support websites [to assist where there might be a possibility to do so, e.g. where a person is actually asking for help].

And thank YOU, Lorica, for the efforts you have clearly made [over the years] to assist people with their health issues! If you have any other questions, comments, and/or concerns, I hope you will please post them [for all to learn and benefit from].

Warm regards, and the best of health to us all,

David

P.S. As an aside, Lorica, I would be VERY interested to know what information from "scientists on the creation side" persuaded you to come to the conclusion that the evolution theory was/is "laughable." I also have given it some thought, in years past [although probably not at your level of research], and came to a different conclusion [than you]. Thanks in advance. Tweet