Re: Crashes are now so severe - this is new to me - is this a crash?

Hi Wired,

So much good advice given already - yet i know in the state of mind of 'no more of this ever again' no amount of advice really changes that state of mind - yet look deeper into the advice given and you'll find seeds of hope there.

I wish i could do more than type into a damn computer - but please call a friend again if you need to - really, don't circle alone through all this constantly. A good friend should want to be there - as many strangers here want to also help.

It's interesting that Lam's protocol didn't work for you and made things worse - he states in his book that if improvements don't occur there normally is another reason, besides life stress and nutritional depletion, that is causing the CNS, and SNS/PNS/OAT axis dysregulation - mainly issues like infection from bacteria, parasties, fungal etc - that all, in their own way through interference of body mechanisms and excess wastes the body has to deal with - create a 'stress' signal constantly, which would deplete the CNS and adrenals over time and create that 'hyper wired but exhausted' scenario.

I'm in a very similar situation to yourself and it doesn't help to have a doctor only offer SSRI's and absolutely no diagnostics whatsoever, despite my requests for adrenal function - which i've had to have tested privately.

The fact i nursed an ill cat for 2 years with suspected chronic Toxiplasma Gondii (at the same time i got many sudden floaters in both eyes and they haven't ever gone since), aswell as being bitten by 50+ ticks/horse flies/midges and mosquitoes in the 4 years i've lived here...aswell as drinking from questionable sources of water - there are many possibilities i could have contracted something.

All these symptoms flared like mad since living here and being exposed to these things. I had oodles of stress in life too which helped to bring me down extra-fast but my recovery 5 months later has been minimal. I'm having to keep an open mind and take baby steps to understanding what exactly the imbalances are and methods of recovery. Save up money for 1 test at a time. Some days are better than others at my ability to withstand this.

Here in Ireland it's still a case of if you're suffering physiological symptoms aswell as neurological symptoms then you're mad and you need psych meds. I'm surprised they don't still do the drowning test to see if one is a witch or not - it's that archaic here!
It'll take at least 2 decades for them to catch up with the mountain of evidence of how the many forms of stress (nutritional, bacterial, environmental etc) easily cause mixed physical and emotional symptoms. Yet it's far easier for NHS GP's to sit there all day - turn off their brain and write endless prescriptions.

Being in the UK you have a chance, as there is much more selection there - to find a good doctor. Have you had any tests to rule out infections etc?
At least try to get a comprehensive blood panel to check basic vital functions, blood count etc...

The trouble is, when one mentions suicide to a doc they just think of SSRI's and the like - it hems them into one train of thought - unable to see the whole picture of one's health because to them suicide = mental health problems - which like i said - is a very 'old school' brainwashed view of the various causes of mental health conditions.

Only those psychiatrists who have passion for their field of work - realising talk therapy and psych-medications hardly ever cure anyone, try other methods and testing to determine any physiological abnormalities - and by correcting these previously undetected anomolies - improvements would follow and their patients previously consigned to a life in a mental hospital are obtaining degrees, getting jobs, raising families - fully functioning members of society.

I shall always maintain - being on one side of the fence or the other - this proverbial chicken and egg scenario that is presented with health problems - is it the mind causing it or is it the body? - will always result in mis-diagnosis. It's important to sit on the fence at all times and view the situation (w)holistically...and treat it holistically too.

Psychiatrists/psychologists see a mind and no body, doctors see a body and no mind - but easily pass the buck to a 'mind' doctor should you dare display emotional symptoms too.
It's a stark reminder how medical practices on the whole are still stuck in the dark ages.

So it can be especially difficult to truly understand one's health status if there is no full co-operation from doctors.

It's important to turn this forever-failing scenario around, as it's the only way a truer understanding of health can be obtained.

Unfortunately most in this scenario don't have the health to be in 'fight and educate' mode so are especially vulnerable to what is essentially, medical-care neglect.

But you must not absorb the dogma that prevails in society of your mind is sick, making your body sick and that's all there is to it.

The hair test will be revealing and can help point you onto a corrective nutritional path - in the meantime, do call friends, change your doctor if you have to and request basic body function tests,blood counts etc to rule out anything else interfering with your recovery, get a copy of your pituitary scan and perhaps consult with a respected integrative endo online about treatment paths to go down. (Dr. Rind is one i can think of off the top of my head).

Do it ONLY when you have the energy to do it. It's important to put all this junk aside for some moments in the day, despite it being all-consuming a lot of the time.

There's lots of very knowledgeable folk here on CZ to help offer support and i urge you to come here ANYTIME you feel deep in the quagmire.

*Huge hugs*




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