Yes, this is an awesome thread with some great inspiring posts. It can be a deep subject. I don't have time and I'm too tired to post anything to contribute. The thread is beautiful and so some of my thoughts are best kept to myself anyway. Let's just say I'm all for the real when it comes to God and I feel you all are too. My life is so hectic that too much of the time I feel like the one who is being choked by the thorns and at the same time God is very real to me. I don't understand that. I have come a long way it is true; it is also true that I have yet a long way to go when it comes to spiritual matters. It's all about abiding in Christ. I so want to do that at a deeper level. Do any of you have any ideas on how to get there? I already know about fasting, praying and reading the Word. Is there anything else that would help or just more of the above?