yes DQ, I think that 'last ditch effort' you speak of, that brings people to natural approaches like the Oleander soup -which granted, is strong and potentially toxic stuff if not respected- has effectively marginalized all such natural so called "alternative" approaches, and has even demonized a natural lifestyle in toto. By which I mean, something more like what the Natural Hygienists advocate. People still avoid looking at diet as more than a weight-loss thing, or something to lower blood pressure. It's a parts-and-pieces world, in the main. But hope (and faith in something altogther transformative) springs eternal.