I do believe, Wombat, that the reason that the 'trash talk', specifically the rubbish about your panties, was introduced by ML, was so that the thread would be removed to the dregs (oops, I mean Debate Forums ). The posts that were inserted into that thread had no bearing on the discussion and were irrelevant to the topic. I believe he does this so that people will be distracted by this rubbish and forget what the real issue was about, his reprehensible act concerning Cora. Whenever he is asked to take responsibility for his nasty behaviour, he pulls out this trick. Typical behaviour for a narcissist.