The last thing I want is to contaminate the support forum with aspects that are not supportive.
IMO, both drugs and herbs should probably both be used in some cases- alternating with one when on a break from the other, etc.
I do think that for many people that have posted (particularly about scattering), that they may want to consider 'supporting' themselves with drugs, if available. Scattering is a complex problem, and in my estimation and self experimentation often requires a coordinated approach to resolve.