Re: Granted Freedom

I am having a hard time following your logic. you say that only god gives man freedom, not governments. then you say that god turns away (does this mean takes away freedom) from those that have turned away from him.

I didn't realize it at the time but, if read the whole verse that I posted, it answers that question.  If God ignores a nation of people, then it would seem to me they could easily fall under tyranny.  It doesn't necessarily mean that God takes away their freedom but God lets them fall under the influence of other powers.  What is convoluted about that?

"My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children."

In my world, governments decide how much freedom the people have. god may give your spirit freedom, but i don't think he/she has much to do with the "freedom to worship, travel, marry, have children, and yes carry guns." Those "freedoms" are granted by the government.

From a certain point of view this appears to be correct but you see, I believe that God transcends government.  If a nation falls under tyranny, it only creates a new form of inequality and freedom.  And that is freedom for the rulers and equality for the people.

If you ask me, why would God be upset when people embrace immorality?

Superficially (from a certain point of view again) it doesn't make sense but if the new age scientist William Tiller is correct that we are co-creators of our universe on some sort of quantum level then, our actions and beliefs are affecting the environment and our unborn children.  At least this is one possible explanation.  As you can see I have been developing the ability to see things from different angles.

I have a friend of mine from Cuba.  She is an intuitive person.  She told me living there was like an energetic weight was on her body all of the time.  I find that interesting.  What drives me crazy is when I hear about socialists who take trips there and they see good things and others, especially those who lived there, experienced another.  And then Fidel blames the US for all of their problems.  How can the US be the source of their problems when we have have isolated ourselves from them via a trade embargo???  They can trade with whoever they want in the world except for the US.  I am beginning to ramble again.