Re: Nutritarian links (edit: links added)

Personally I don't buy that guy (Chris Masterjohn),

That's OK, personally I don't buy Campbell either.  I think he set out with a bias and proceeded to pick and choose and manipulate his data to match his preconceptions.

Though I already posted the link, here is Masgterjohn's rebuttal to Campbell's rebuttal:

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Campbell-Masterjohn.html

And BTW, Sally Fallon being an officer with Weston Price does not in any way negate her credentials or the validity of her work, the same as is true of her colleage Mary Enig.  Neither does T. Campbell being a vegetarian negate his credentials or the validity of his work.

It is the scientific validity or lack thereof which  establishes the validity of the work of all three.  In the case of Campbell, although his book contains some solid work, I perceive a distinct lack of solid science in the way he conducted his study and the way he supported his conclusions.

Don't get me wrong - as I stated before, I think a mostly raw, mostly vegetable,  nuts, seeds, tumors and fruits diet just like our ancestors ate is the best.  Just like our ancestors also ate for hundreds of thousands of year, it is also healthiest to consume some fresh non-farm raised fish and free range meat that has not been contaminated by man's pesticides, herbicides, growth hormones, antibiotics and other contaminants and artificial feed.

If a person knows what they are doing and both plan and supplement carefully it is possible to be very healthy with a vegan diet.  In the real world, some of the unhealthiest people around are vegans who are not planning and supplementing well but rather just eating plants because they think it is the right thing to do, and as a result they have poor overall nutrition, poor health and are often courting serious long term consequences.

Such vegans may be eating a healthier diet than the SADS diet, but it is a joke when they preach about the health benefits of not eating any meat when they clearly have so little idea about what they are doing other than avoiding meat.

Grzbear's posts were both excellent.

Tony