Answers to Jim Humbles questions
Hello Jim,
First of all, I am Tom.
You can read Jim Humbles comments that I am quoting at his website.
http://jimhumble.biz/?page_id=22
[quote=Jim Humble]
"(You might notice that the post right under Biosafe’s post, that supposedly is by someone else, says that they tested ascorbic acid and it indeed did activate sodium chlorite and that he tested it for chlorine dioxide and it was present. Interesting, because I did the same tests and chlorine dioxide was not present. I did that test many times. Yes a piddly amount of chlorine was present, but not enough to cure any diseases. No, I’d bet my last dollar that Biosafe wrote that post as well. Either he is really evil, or he thinks he can just make up data because he thinks it ought to be that way. And if it wasn’t Biosafe, who ever it was, was trying to prove Biosafe right and he is worse than Biosafe, because he knew it was a lie. I did a thousand test making up
Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , did they think I’d miss something as obvious as that. On the other hand they probably didn’t care. No matter what you say there will always be a few that believe you.)"
[end quote]
Thank you for noticing my efforts to confirm, through testing, what you have written about.
I am not interested in relieving you of your “last dollar,” but if I find myself in your part of the country, you can buy me dinner.
I find your attitude a little strange for a “scientist.”
You say that you have run a thousand tests including many tests with ascorbic acid. Unfortunately you are keeping most of your test procedures and results private, so those of us who are trying to figure
Miracle-Mineral-Supplement out have to come up with our own test procedures and discuss our results.
I am very familiar with testing. When I run across results that seem contrary to what I have found in the past, I review the materials and the test procedure used to try to understand why the results came in differently. I will then conduct additional tests using that procedure and those materials to see if I can get similar results myself.
Your response was to call me an impostor, an evil person, a liar, and then to say that I made the test results up. While it may be an understatement to say that your reaction is less than “scientific” in any definition of the word, I will go a step further and say…
Shame on you Jim Humble!
My respect for you and your work has greatly diminished as a result of your reaction.
You claim to have run a thousand tests making up the
Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol and many of these tests with ascorbic acid. I have, to date, run over 3000 tests on MMS and only 2 using ascorbic acid as an activator. I am not sure what is going on here, but how is it that I got the reaction on my first test and you were unable to get it over several tests…?
Perhaps you, and everyone else that wants to explore this, can take some time and check this out. I got the reaction with my first test, and verified it with a second test. This is not as extensive as your many tests, so I welcome having a number of people check this out.
Since you don’t share your test results, I will simply share what I did and you can take it from there.
I mixed up an ascorbic acid solution and ended up with a solution with a PH of about 2. I did this by crushing a vitamin C tablet and then adding 5 ml (100 drops) of water. I mixed up the solution and let the binders from the tablet settle out on the bottom.
I went to Walgreens Pharmacy and picked up some vitamin C 500 mg tablets under the Nature’s Bounty label. These tablets also have plant cellulose, croscamellose, vegetable magnesium stearate, and silica in them. I also ordered some laboratory grade ascorbic acid, but that has not arrived yet. When I get that, I will repeat the test again, but I expect to get similar results.
My PH test paper has a range from 1 – 14 and the color was between 2 and 3, but closer to 2.
My 28% sodium chlorite solution is MMS from Global Light.
I mixed up 6 drops of MMS and activated it with 6 drops of the ascorbic acid solution.
I let the activation go for around 5 minutes, then diluted the solution with 120 ml (1/2 cup) of water and measured the free ClO2 using LaMotte “Insta-Test” ClO2 test strips that I purchased from
http://www.cole-parmer.com
. The test strip indicated that I had about 5 PPM of free ClO2 in the solution.
For a comparison, I mixed up 6 drops of MMS and activated it with 30 drops of 10%
citric acid , let it activate for 3 minutes, then diluted it with 120 ml (1/2 cup) water. I measured the solution and observed about 5 PPM free ClO2.
The testing was conducted at 70 degrees
Fahrenheit with a relative humidity of 48%.
Please, run this test yourself, and anyone reading this, do your own testing and let me know what your results are.
When Bruce mentioned that sodium chlorite could be activated with ascorbic acid, I was convinced that he was wrong. I was very surprised with my results. I thought the anti oxidant properties of ascorbic acid would simply neutralize the solution and I would end up with no free ClO2.
I went on to demonstrate that the solution did not have the residual that you get using
citric acid as an activator, but I think I did prove that ascorbic acid can activate sodium chlorite to produce ClO2.
I then pondered how this could happen…
I happen to agree with you.
[quote = Jim Humble]
“Now about chemistry. Chemistry is pretty well established in colleges and universities. It teaches certain principles. Most of our scientists agree with these principles of chemistry…
But the important thing you can learn is that it (chlorine dioxide) is generated from sodium chlorite (MMS) with addition of acids.”
[end quote]
Let’s look at what we have. Ascorbic acid is an acid in name and with a PH of 2 it has the quality of being an acid. When I mix that with sodium chlorite with a PH of 13, I will end up reducing the sodium chlorite and in that process, ClO2 is released.
This matches exactly with what you said.
[quote = Jim Humble]
I did a thousand test making up MMS, did they think I’d miss something as obvious as that.
[end quote]
I will cut you some slack on this. I would have never thought to try it either. However, it appears that you overlooked this and missed it.
As you can see, I am neither an impostor, nor an evil person, nor a liar, and I did not simply fabricate some un-factual test results. I simply reported my test results, provided the materials and methods used to come up with these results, and commented on something that you missed.
Tom