THanks for the post. Some people just like pointing fingers more than trying to look at the big picture as a whole and realize under the circumstances The dem didn't have a better solution either. I guarantee you all these ones who say they would pull out the troops right now who are expected to run would never pull that trigger if it was put in their hands right now and they found out what we don't know about. I don't like this Iraq war anymore than the next person and wish it was over but even though I would like to see a better outcome than we have, the easiest thing to do is pull out but the easiest doesn't always mean the best thing to do.9/11 and Osmama and Saddam helping the terrorist and Removing Saddam from power is where this started or was what I thought to be the intial goal but they couldn't leave the Iraqis without a leader so here we are. I just think there is alot we don't know and will never know. If our goverment enacted 9/11 and someone has proof undeniable proof that we started this whole thing ourself then we need to revamp our goverment but knowone has been successful in proving all of this.Give me pictures of a bomb being planted etc... THey said Osama was working for us but knowone has been successful in proving this either. Give me proof of hearing osama on tape talking to our goverment. Unless you got cold hard evidence why join this belief . Arent' you only working with the terrorist when you take this view, especially if its not true? I'm saying it doesn't help the situation or keep the country in unity. It divides the country and this is what those middle easterners want and they want to even come over here and help us. Russia, Iran , korea and used to be IRaq made it clear how they felt about us and have made their own threats along with the terrorist. I don't think our goverment has anything to do with that. Do you? We need to look at the whole picture not just a piece. Even on Saddam's deathbed he speaks evil towards the AMericans. As does Chavez who partners with IRan and russia. Americans say well if we quit helping Israel they will leave us alone. So people think we should be their puppets and do what they want but they already want to control everyone with the oil. I don't believe they would leave us alone because they don't forgive and forget, we would be next I'm sure. They need to be put in their place and know they can't and wont' control the world with their terrorists friends, their oil, their hatred for people, their religion and any other thing they use to try and threaten. If we become their puppets let it be said we are no longer in control of our own people or country.