abdominal pain! 
sonja25
21 y
4,488
Hi.
I have been having abdominal pain now for 5 months. It is actually in the lower right side, and it feels like pinching, specially if i bend over with my knees krossed. Also at night usually this part of my stomach swells up, like a baloon, and then the swelling goes down after a minute or less, but it comes back. This feels like it - whatever it is is going to come through my skin, and it is hard on the touch.
does anyone knows what this is? i've seen 6 doctors, done ct and ultra sound, but it all came back normal, doctors have no idea what it is. I fell good otherwise, no fever or anything like that, but this thing is really bothering me.
I would love to get any feedback, any advice.\
Thank you!
Sonja- Re: abdominal pain! Spirit
21 y
4,353
This is a reply to # 80,458Whatever it is, it is related to your liver and your intestines, meaning that you need to cleanse.
Improve your diet (eliminate foods with preservatives ), and start cleansing.
Do bowel cleanse, parasites cleanse and liver flush.
D.- Re: abdominal pain! sonja25
21 y
4,338
This is a reply to # 80,459Hi, Spirit
I had ultra sound done, all the organs came back perfect. I dont really eat any foods with preservatives , I mainly eat organic - 95%! And also, I do take fiber drink every once and awhile, I also tried milk of magnesia a few times, but it didnt seem to improve it at all...
Yesterday my chiropractor mentioned I could have a torn muscle in there....
I am not sure, but he gave me some cleansing tea just in case this has to do with intestine, so we will see if this will help.
Thank you for your advice, i really apprecciate it!
Sonja-
Re: abdominal pain! Spirit
21 y
5,131
This is a reply to # 80,473Sonja,
ultra sounds, blood tests, xrays, hida scans, MRIs, ... and other medical tests can't detect parasites, and can't detect cholesterol stones accumulated inside your liver.
DO LIVER FLUSH!
DO parasites CLEANSE!
Follow the links ...
Something like this could be inside of your liver, blocking bile flow:
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/forums/m.asp?f=4&i=724 - Re: abdominal pain! kayla11
18 y
4,268
MoreThis is a reply to # 80,473Hi sonja-
I have the exact same pains you have described on a few websites. I know its a few years later but did you ever figure out what was wrong??
Thank you!
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- Re: abdominal pain! sonja25
21 y
4,338
- Re: abdominal pain! Sheridan
21 y
4,778
This is a reply to # 80,458Hi Sonja,
I know how you feel. I have had lower right side abdominal pain for many months too and I have no fever or vomiting. I feel like I have pressure there if I sit with my legs crossed. I have had 2 ultrasounds with different doctors. As I have had surgery in the past for removal of an ovarian cyst and part of the right ovary, one doctor said my pain was probably due to surgical adhesions and if so there is nothing I could do about it. I had no diarrhea at the time.
Recently I had another ultrasound as I had really nasty pain very low down on the right side as a result of bending, twisting and stretching all in one movement (on top of my usual level of fairly constant right side pain). The ultrasound showed nothing. I also had some blood work done to detect inflammation (CRP & ESR) - my values came back very low. My haemoglobin was also apparently within the normal range, so hidden intestinal bleeding was not considered to be a possibility by the doctor. Lower right side pain can be an indicator of Crohn's disease, but sufferers commonly have diarrhea and often bleeding as well. I don't have diarrhea but my bowel movement frequency in the last few months has been very irregular, anything from 1 to 5 times per day.
I feel like I have developed multiple food intolerances since my younger brother died of cancer last year after months of appalling pain and suffering. Bread now causes me terrible gas and I can't tolerate fruit either. One doctor went so far as to say that the gas is caused by the yeast in the bread, but he stopped short of talking about candida. Another doctor did mention "dysbiosis" but was no help other than to suggest taking Lactobacillus plantarum to reduce inflammation in my bowel - but my blood work doesn't indicate inflammation. So I don't know what to conclude from this, maybe the CRP and ESR tests are unreliable.
My own feeling about my problem is that it may be irritable bowel syndrome exacerbated by being under prolonged stress from multiple sources. I take a probiotic that contains 13 different Lactobacillus strains and this does improve the "quality" of my bowel motions (sorry!) but the effect is not permanent. I also try to limit carbs and coffee in my diet and find that this helps me to do better. Some days I wake up almost pain free. But other days I have worse pain - for example, the day we had a real estate agent (realtor) out to put our home on the market (something we were forced to do due to a failed financial situation), I had crampy pains on the lower right side every few minutes. The next day the pain was gone.
Do you have any other bowel symptoms? Sounds like you do suffer from bloating.- Re: abdominal pain! sonja25
21 y
4,340
This is a reply to # 80,471Hi.
Thank you so much for your feedback. I really appreciate to hear anything, just to know I am not all alone here.
Well, as far as my bowel movement - when this first started, I was a vegeterian, and i was in a period of eating a lot of fruit - it was in the summer, so my husband thought, i overate grapes, that caused me so much gas, that is got stuck inside, and that that was the bloating... i was really eating a lot of grapes for those few days... then I had no gas at all for many weeks, which was weird. Then I started to eat chicken and turkey and eggs, because i thought it was going to help if i dont eat so much fiber. 3 of the doctors said it was probably just gas.
i wrote to a gastro forum and the doctor there said it is a possibility of an inflammation of the colon from an infection, or ibs. But I am not sure. He said that the first treatment with ibs is more fiber in your diet, which I am trying right now. I also went to a chiropractor yesterday, and I asked his advice, and he said it could be a muscle tear, but when I said I sometimes feel a lot of gurguling inside where the pain is, he gave me some cleansing tea, to see if that will help.
Well,the pain seems to got a little worse in the last month, I dont know why. One doctor said i should continuoe to work out, ( i stopped in the beggining, because it was hurting me) - because that will help clear the gas.
And my bowel movements seems to get better, I was a little contipated in the beggining of this problem, but now it is back to normal...
And I also got my blood work done, and I have my results right here with me, and hemoglobin and esr are perfect. Thank god!
So it is just frustrating, how come no one can tell what is wrong? I had cat scan done, - perfect! My Gp mentioned colonoscopy, but I am such a scardy-cat when it comes to doctors, that the pain will have to become unbarable for me to go do that....
I just wish someone would give me an answer and medication, and I want to have a normal life again, with no pain!
But maybe i should just accept this, and hope that it will work itself out...
Who knows? Just your response for some reason made me fell a little better...
I hope you feel better and thank you again for your input!
Sonja- Re: abdominal pain! Sheridan
21 y
5,204
RN
This is a reply to # 80,472Hi Sonja,
How are you going?
Since I spoke to you last my mother has been diagnosed with Breast Cancer - a tumour that was detected on a routine mammogram. More stress for everyone!
I just wanted to say that I have an appointment to see a hypnotherapist in a few days. I have already had one appointment and spoke to him for 2 hours! I did feel better when I left even though we didn't get time to do any actual hypnosis. I am hoping to discover whether any of my physical problems are psychosomatic in nature. He has indicated that he will be able to change my response to stress. I would also like him to implant the suggestion that Sugar doesn't taste so good any more, since when I feel down I just can't resist things like coffee and sugar, even though I know they will cause me more pain a few hours later. Weak!!! I don't know whether the hypnotherapy will have any effect on my abdominal pain, but at least when I feel less distressed I am more able to cope with the pain. I'll let you know what happens.
BTW, I have done 25 Liver Flushes in the last year and a bit as well as three lots of parasite cleansing and three lots of several weeks on psyllium and bentonite. None of these things have made me feel any worse. The Liver Cleansing I feel has been a big success as it helped me to lose over 100 pounds, I no longer have any need for asthma medication and my hay fever/grass pollen allergy is reduced by around 95%. However, I don't feel that it has made any difference to my bowel symptoms. I will continue the Liver Flushing (I still get discomfort in the gallbladder area); I am even toying with the idea of drinking Coca Cola (yuk!) to see if the phosphoric acid has an effect.- Re: abdominal pain! sonja25
21 y
4,453
This is a reply to # 80,477Hi, Sheridan,
What is the liver flush? I got two messages from Spirit to do that, but I really dont think this has anything to do with my pain. I dont know... I went to my chiropractor on one of my regular visits, so I asked him, if he has any idea about my pain. I described it and he said it could be a torn muscle in my stomach. It makes sense, because I have been lifting a very heavy table - every day all by myself, and maybe that torn my stomach mucle. Because what the chiropractor said, the way the stomach muscle lies in there, it hurts the same way, and also he asked if it hurts when I lean over, and it does, - usualy when i cross my legs and lean over, I get a pinch. So I am thinking, maybe this is a muscle problem, because I do work out, maybe I strained it, and it swells up because it is inflammed. and maybe it is irritating my intestine as a result of it.
I started taking aleve,two in the morning, and two at night... The pain is almost gone. I still have a little pain, every once and awhile, but nothing as before, when I had the pain all the time, and the swelling was very big and obvious, and painfull... So i dont know. Also, the chiropractor gave me a cleansing tea, which I drink every night, and it is supposed to clean the intestine, if there is a blockage in there, or if there are pockets of gas... It removes toxins. So i am trying this also. We will see.
But you know, I think, if I take the pain, and accept it as it is, and try to work with it... It might help. Did you ever hear of mind over matter? Well I think it works. I think if you really believe something, it will happen, it will work. So I am working on this. I kind of talk to god, and try to work it out with the universe. I know it might sound weird, but I believe in that. ( because it worked on every other thing in my life...)
I dont know how you feel about this....but if nobody can show anything with your pain... what if it is psycological? or maybe stress? And then the more you think about it, the worse it gets...
I really hope this hypnosis helps. And I hope your pain is not unberrable!
I wish your pain would go away, but unfortunately, all this is a part of life. Pain, suffering, disease,... and we all go through all of it. But you know, if you believe, there always comes the sun after the rain. And things will get better. Sooner or later. They just have to! I am very optimistic nature, and as hard as life gets sometimes, you always have to see that it could always be worse...
I wish you all the best, and let me know how your hypnosis worked.
Good luck.
Sonja- What is Liver Flush? Spirit
21 y
4,395
This is a reply to # 80,478St. Johnswort (Hypericum perforatum) is also known as Perforate St. John's Wort and Klamathweed.
Medical Uses:
Hypericums contain large amounts of tannins, various glycosides such as hypericin and rutin and the essential oil catechol.
The oil extract of the plant can be taken for stomach ache, colic, intestinal problems, and as an expectorant for the congestion in the lungs. Externally, a medicinal infusion of the flowers in olive oil is applied to wounds, sores, burns, ulcers, swellings, cramps, rheumatism, tumours, caked breasts, and other skin problems.
There are 400 species of St. Johnswort found throughout the world, it has been used as a medicinal herb for thousands of years, but has only recently been studied for its medicinal value. Now proven to have many highly active constituents including ascorbic-acid, rutin, pectin, choline, sitosterol, quercetin, hypericin and pseudohypericin.
The flowers and leaves are medicinal as analgesic, antiseptic, antispasmodic, aromatic, astringent, cholagogue, digestive, diuretic, expectorant, nervine, resolvent, sedative, stimulant, vermifuge and vulnerary. Some compounds of the plant have been shown to have potent anti-retroviral activity without serious side effects and they are being researched in the treatment of AIDS.
It is also valued in the treatment of sunburn.
It is regularly given as prescriptions in many European and Eurasia countries especially for depression.
The plant is known to be a mild sedative, anti-inflammatory, astringent, antiseptic, diuretic.
An oil extract made with olive or sunflower oil is used to treat wounds, burns, insect bites and many other external conditions.
Native Americans used Hypericum for several conditions that tannin would be appropriate for and as a tea to treat tuberculosis.
Testing shows it may be effective against tuberculosis.
Warning: May cause irritation to sensitive skin and taken internally may make the skin more sensitive to light.
In addition to neuralgic pain, it will ease fibrositis, sciatica and rheumatic pain.
There are many ancient superstitions regarding this plant, its name Hyperieum is derived from the Greek and means 'over an apparition,' a reference to the belief that St. Johnswort smelled so obnoxious to evil spirits that a whiff of it would cause them to fly. The plant was given to have magical powers. In ancient Greece, the herb was used to treat many ailments, including sciatica and poisonous reptile bites.
References:
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http://www.planetherbs.net/plants/stjohnswort.htm
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http://members.fortunecity.com/tempestwolf_of_stag/herbs/herbs/s/st...Liver Flush Homepage
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21 y
4,283
This is a reply to # 80,481Hi, Spirit!
I am considering this Liver Flush - but i have a few questions.
First, to drink a half a cup of oil ??? I dont know if I can do that! Just thinking the amount of fat and calories??? Won't this affect my weight? I am verry concious of my weight.!!
Also, if i do liver flush, the way it is described, how do i prevent it from getting all messed up again? what are the foods to avoid this? Can you please tell me a little about it?
and also, what makes you think, that this will help my situation any way? it just doesnt seem like there is not a connection between the Liver Flush and my pain...
I dont know, but I will probably do it, it cant hurt right?
And does it matter how old the person is? I mean, is it the older you get, the dirtier the liver gets or what?
I just turned 25.
Thanks for your help.
Sonja
- Re: What is Liver Flush? sonja25
21 y
4,283
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- Re: abdominal pain! sonja25
21 y
4,453
- Re: abdominal pain! Sheridan
21 y
5,204
RN
- Re: abdominal pain! sonja25
21 y
4,340
- Re: abdominal pain! Spirit
21 y
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