honestly susie, how can you say what you say without backing it up with some facts? like your own very personal flush experience??? have you ever flushed?

why are you so turned off flushing?
do you think everyone here is narrow minded?
read and read and read and you will see that this forum is full of open minded folk that have tried and are trying everything alternative under the sun and moon to help themselves. they are also in a never ending process of learning from each other's experiences. is that why you are here too?

yes, herbs are helpful, yes some naturopaths are better then regular doctors...BUT comparing all these with a flush is like comparing apples to oranges. i'm sure each serves their purpose...however i have never gotten out stones that are 2/3 of an inch with herbs alone.

i'll post pics just for you, later on today or tomorrow, and maybe they will incourage you to flush instead of doubting!
but all said and done, in the end the only person who can convince you is YOU.

love and light!